Armymutt Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I'm curious how other councils number girl troops, and the reason. Ours takes the same number as the associated boy troop, which is confusing. To unofficially (not on beascout) separate the two, a G is added to the girl troop. To me, they are separate entities and should have different numbers. It's becoming more of an issue as the troops develop different styles of leadership. We had a summer camp adult leader huddle tonight to go over the rules of summer camp. Apparently, our CC (for both units) has had to deal with council investigations one every summer trip for the past couple of years. While the CC was talking, the boy troop adult leadership stood quietly, dressed in uniforms. The girl troop leadership had the SM in uniform and the other two adult leaders dressed in random assortment of clothing, cracking jokes. The girl's troop is the one that seems to be the driver of the investigations. I don't want to be associated with that sort of organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Sadly, the CO has a number, and all units associated with that CO: Pack, Troops, Ship, or Crew would have the same number. CC, and COR would need to crack down on the girls unit. There are a few cases where the CO has multiple numbers, but those are rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 13 minutes ago, Eagle94-A1 said: There are a few cases where the CO has multiple numbers, but those are rare. In your council. Our council the packs, boy troop, girl troops, and crews all have different numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeS72 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Most of our council's linked troops sort of share a number. When I say sort of share all of our Cub packs begin with a 3, as in 3100; all of our male troops begin with a zero and would wear 100; all of our female troops begin with a 4 and a troop flag would say 4100 (some of those troops choose to just wear the 3 digit number, some the 4 digit, wish they would all do the same thing); ships all have a 5 prefix that makes them 5100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 National's computer system use a 4 digit code for units. if memory serves if the starting number is 3 is the national code for Cubs; 0 is the national code for boy troops, 5 is the national code for Ships, and 6 is for Crews. I do not think there was a national consensus for girl troops as in my area 7 designates girl troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 When BSA began welcoming females into Scout Troops and Cub Packs (Explorer Posts and Venturererer Crews already) our Council wasn't sure how to proceed, so they said "pick a number". Our home Troop, 759, welcomed a sister Troop 7592. Seemed to work. Money changed hands, papers signed. Then, they said "no, we need a better, clearer destinction" , so later Troops/Packs became, at least on paper/Scoutnet denoted as (forinstance) 222B and 333G. letters show the gender difference. and the number strip on the sleeve will be only numbers.... So it is written, so shall it be... Or Gee.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 On 6/26/2025 at 8:44 AM, Eagle94-A1 said: National's computer system use a 4 digit code for units. if memory serves if the starting number is 3 is the national code for Cubs; 0 is the national code for boy troops, 5 is the national code for Ships, and 6 is for Crews. I do not think there was a national consensus for girl troops as in my area 7 designates girl troops. Again, I’m guessing this is local. All units in our council are 4 digits. Most, not all boy troops start with a 1, some with a 2. Most packs are 4, some start 3. All crews start with a 9. Ships I’ve seen start with 1. Almost all girl troops start with a 6, but one starts with a 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armymutt Posted June 29 Author Share Posted June 29 I know they are all four digits, at least in beascout. Most units drop the leading zero(s) if they are there. Maybe for us it follows the pattern described above, going by CO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 As said above most units share the same number if chartered by the same org. I do know of 1 unit in council that has the same CO and their female troop has a completely different unit number so I am assuming multiple unit numbers tied to a CO are possible but probably not preferred. As others have said I also have the understanding that units are actually 4 digit in the national system; however, I think that the leading number could be different from council-to-council due to mergers. My council has a few troops with the same unit number because of council mergers. My understanding is that when the councils merged every unit that conflicted received a leading number if they were newer than the oldest conflicting unit (EG: 0222 is 50 years old, they didn't change, but 0222 from the other council was only 12 years old and became 6222 in the system and both are allowed to wear 222 on their uniforms). My council seems to have applied a 6 prefix to one former council and other prefix numbers to units from other former councils, and a third from the absorbing council; the oldest unit regardless of original council always gets first dibs on keeping the leading zeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashTagScouts Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 beascout.org can display multiple units with the same number- we have a number of examples of this within our council. A single CO can also sponsor more than one troop of the same gender- again, we have examples of this in our council. Several years ago now, Lodges were asked to do a clean-up and synch to National by updating/adding unit OAIDs from National. With those IDs in place, Lodgemaster can synch some unit information to the National database. We never had any issue with Venturing crews that were 0###, 00##, or 000#, so i suspect there is actually two fields in the National database- the actual unit ID as assigned by National, and then whatever ID the local council is using to identify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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