SiouxRanger

National has sat down to a table to play the ultimate game of Texas Hold'em. Where a Chapter 7 liquidation is the "All-In." National has yielded control of its future to a formidable number of powerful players-a "Hail Mary" strategy.

Well, in the beginning, National did start with nothing, and 100± years later built it into what it now has. So, even starting at zero is doable. But, the second time around,, National would have its intellectual property, and a tradition (some of which is laudable), and a shell of a structure, though hugely damaged, and some camp properties with which to carry on the outdoor component of the program. It won't be what is was before the bankruptcy, but what does one expect when they burn down their own house?

I've never seen Articles Of Incorporation which did not provide that the corporation was "perpetual." Likely, they all are. My state has statutes providing for the voluntary dissolution of a corporation, (and the involuntary dissolution, for that matter, in the event that the corporation fails to pay annual corporate fees, and such-but not likely a BSA issue.) Seems to me there are only 3 likely scenarios regarding BSA intellectual property:: 1. BSA keeps all its intellectual property, having no right to sell it, or for the bankruptcy court to dispose of it due to so

So, if National liquidates, does its intellectual property go on the auction block? And, if so, are the potential buyers limited to those who wish to carry on the Scouting Movement, or could someone buy the intellectual property and simply put it on a shelf to collect dust? Seems to me National is in the franchise business-it licenses its intellectual property, its name, logos, designs, merit badge pamphlets, handbooks, etc. Some tycoon buy Philmont? What is American Scouting without those?

This is an EXCELLENT question. The blackletter rule (that is the default, simple statement of them applicable rule to the majority of situations), is that "negligence" is the failure to behave with the degree of care that someone of ordinary prudence would have exercised under the same circumstances. Another way of saying it (tort law, that is, civil wrong law-not criminal law-, is replete with parallel, vague statements of rules about negligence that are totally worthless, in my opinion) is that someone has failed to take "reasonable care" in the conduct of their business or

You need not respond to such challenges. Einstein took at least a week to come up with E=mc (squared) (Well, maybe years.)

Absolutely agree 100%. I am not an abuse survivor. I am a child of Scouting, Cubs through Eagle. Philmont staff, father of 3 Eagles. Scouting is my life and that of my family. I stand appalled that this "principled" organization has failed to defend and protect children. Children. The defenseless. For how many DECADES? (Longer than I have been alive at 7 of them.) An organization with a "religious declaration" requirement. "That which you do to the least of mine, you do to me."- Jesus. How does one deny that idea? My best friend only told me about

And my best friend, from high school onward, only 4 or 5 years ago told me that he had been abused by a priest, by a scoutmaster, and by Christian Brother(s), and even at that, by staff at the facility to which his parents sent him for help. I am 70, so it was a long time ago. and yet he only told me, which he admitted was the person who best understood him, about 50 YEARS after the abuse. He was in weekly therapy for all those years. About 50 years. His marriage failed about 8 years ago. And he was not a weak-willed person: he earned a Phd. How does this happen? What

Godspeed, TCC Committee. (Not a survivor, just a life-long youth and adult adherent to the principles of Scouting, appalled at National's betrayal of those principals. National needs to make this right or close up shop.)

Sorry. From now to October 15, printing 24/7, I figure 63.6 pages per SECOND to get the job done. So, 64 presses running at 1 page per second is more likely. And to have time to assemble, package, address, and add postage, probably 130 presses. This is a VERY BIG JOB. So, the solo practitioners who see 5,000, or 10,000 Plan packages show up at their door, to have to add a cover letter, repackage them, add postage and get them back in the mail...well, that is where some of the 40% fees are going. Gotta go, the mouse committee wants me to put a bell on the cat.

Apparently, the exceptions are hidden in the footnotes to the principles. It would be easier to follow if all the footnotes were to be revealed at once. "And, as he gradually realized that Watergate was a criminal conspiracy: 'The cliche about the other shoe dropping is no longer used or useable. We are dealing with a centipede. Shoes will continue to drop.'" -The Voice Of Reason: Eric Sevareid's CBS Commentaries, by T. Harrell Allen, p. viii.

I was doing the print job math when it was mentioned that the Plan was over a thousand pages. Whew! 165,000 reams of paper. (I worked in a print shop decades ago.)

There is no defense for National in how it handled all this. And to conceal information from an expert acting on National's behalf, where that information, if provided, would clearly have changed the expert's testimony-that is a lie by concealment. A lie nonetheless.

Leave No Trace compliant?

Hallelujah. And very complex. About 14 levels of rank the cub and boy scout programs. (Arrow of Light might be 15) Many requirements for achieving each rank. Merit badges: required, elective, alternate required merit badges. Many merit badge requirements. (Some requirements for required merit badges have 90 time requirements-DO NOT MISS THOSE!) All manner of non-rank awards, achievements, certificates, training. (BSA lifeguard, kayaking, OA, etc.) Lots of advancement record keeping. Scout account and unit financial record keeping. A single program whe

Aren't attorneys entitled to several days to review documents prior to a hearing? That they get notice of a hearing and a list of the matters to be heard? Holding a hearing on documents filed just minutes previously sets a horrible precedent.

And what penalty if an attorney violates an ethics rule? If the attorney gets to keep the 40% fee, the attorney likely does not need a law license any longer, huh?

"Oh To Be A Child Again." -Jimmy Rogers. "One and one make $7 billion dollars..." At some point we will have to go back to being adults and to divvy up $7 billion dollars. (At least in our own minds.)

Gives me whiplash and all the other baboons look down on me when I try to teach them shorthand..

HEY! I've spent a lifetime with raw knuckles and still can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

Sounds like the Judge did lose control of her courtroom. Lots of things are going on in this courtroom that are very strange. A word or two of negative feedback from the Judge after an attorney has had their say could do wonders to reign in further argument (and pleadings) along the same lines. With so much at stake, maybe not. No matter the outcome at trial level, attorneys MUST get their pleadings and argument into the Court Record to preserve it for use on appeal. Just because a Judge listens patiently, does not mean that the Judge accepts what they are hearing. At some po

Well, I'd give him an Honorary Notary Public, and for the appropriate fee, status as a "Member in Good Standing of the National Geographic Society."

That makes perfect sense. A lawyer "not being prepared to speak" who reads from a script...Hmmmmm... Who does he think he is fooling?

Law is like a game of chess-except that the number and power of the pieces change constantly. I remember a M.A.S.H. episode where Hawkeye and Trapper were playing a game with cards, some chess pieces, and some checkers. Somebody asked, "What are you playing?" "Double Cranko." "How do you play?" "There are no rules."

We're 7 days into more bankruptcy drama-you had your chance to get into the EIN mud wrestle tussle-it ended days ago.