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Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
I am by NO MEANS singling myself out here, but I have to say his mention of Eagle Scout BSA child sexual abuse survivors made me cry. I haven’t felt this validated in a long time. Maybe only when I allow myself to acknowledge that my wife and kids continue to love, trust, respect and welcome me. Yikes. Didn’t anticipate his combined passion, tears/vulnerability and tenacity. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
“When carrots fail to work, get a bigger stick.” I think Teddy Roosevelt said that. Oh. Wait. That was ThenNow. Let attribution be given where attribution is due. Sorry Teddy. You’ll have to stick with the other stick with which you are eternally stuck. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
Incoming… Michael-Johnson-Letter-to-Congress.pdf - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
He may already have done that. As we’ve both discussed, an AG investigation produces reports and they’re unlikely to holder a press conference or release a statement when they get a substantive piece of information one way or the other. “I’m not going to comment on an ongoing investigation...” - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
One a New Orleans funeral march, the other a ridiculous circus calliope piece. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
That’s insurance companies. I mean BSA. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
You guys know the landscape and the historic MO of this operation in this context and many others. Do you think they do that with any measure of efficiency and sound judgment? I’ve not seen a lot that I would say meets my standards or what I would want and expect if I were on the board of such an enterprise. They seem to have “stupid in buckets,” as a buddy once said. (I’m so ripping off that line from this point until my dirt nap.) - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
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Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
Truth wins out over impure or questionable motive, especially when a bombshell lands in the hands of people eager to magnify, disseminate, leverage and propagate the choice morsels. We shall see. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
Remember, this is no solo presser out of the clear blue. This is Jeff Anderson orchestrating the attendance, context, timing, publicity, presenters and to significant degree (I bet) directing content. Not his first ro-dee-o. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Because I’m me, I must call attention to this beautiful ‘typing too fast’ moment. “The Stang.” OMG I LOVE that!! Done. Write it in stone. The Fonz. The King. The Rock. The Stang. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
I’ve tried to perish the thought, but if this is indeed cataclysmic doesn’t it rather aid insurers in their coverage defense arguments, in or out of the bankruptcy? Not my mud puddle, so just wondering out loud in the dark. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
I’ve tried to perish the thought, but if this is indeed cataclysmic doesn’t it rather aid insurers in their coverage defense arguments? Not my mud puddle, so just wondering out loud in the dark. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
Imitation is the sincerest form, etc. However, my oldest son does not subscribe.He says, “Imitation is the sincerest representation of an utter lack of originality.” This was born when his cousin showed up at event wearing the same pair of Cole Haan wingtips my son wears. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
I love a nice squashed motif almost as much as mushy peas with fisn-n-chips. Delish. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
He’s just reading your posts and reposting. Thank the Lord I’m almost done drafting my complaint. I’m looking forward to adding some juicy tidbits from Mystery Joe’s presser. Boy howdy. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
I emailed in February 2021 and got the "no longer employed" bounce-back. This just keeps getting better and better. What time are you guys signing off? I might make a pot of coffee and hang around a while. - 
	
Former Youth Protection Director on the dangers in Scouts BSA
ThenNow replied to MYCVAStory's topic in Issues & Politics
Huh. This is all very innerestin. I guess I’ll have to cancel my afternoon Hardy Boys book club and tea party. Another, “huh.” Mr. Mazzuca was the gent I wrote in 2008 naming my abuser, noting a small portion of my abuse and advising him that my SM had abused others. He never responded nor did he/they put my abuser on “the list.” I’m now thinkin he was busy interviewing Youth Protection director candidates. PS - Because of the way my brain operates in vignettes and sketches, I am picturing the conference rooms and Zoom calls among the BSA players, Coalition cohort and the hedge fund collection posse. I only wish I could watch or at least listen in. Wee... - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Is this a true deep dive analysis of each claim, read and reviewed with fresh eyes, or will they be using the already mined and compiled data? - 
	I’m not sure if this was mentioned here, but during the last TCC town hall Jim Stang noted they had, “put eyes on” each and every POC. If anyone has the most in-depth and thorough understanding of AND appreciation for what they reveal, it’s the TCC and their professional team. It is one more very important reason they and other survivors MUST be involved in YPT advancements going forward with a high measure of certainty (accountability) they are not relegated to an also ran footnote. Absent that, this will end up being nothing more than an sterile accounting exercise. I say that knowing true recompense is quite unlikely at this point. Trying to be realistic while remaining tenacious and hopeful. Well, at least tenacious…
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	Knowing my situation and involvement in the case, my baby sister asked good friends of hers about YPT and the case, etc. This family is the type you described. No sooner had she asked made a brief intro of the topic and got out here questions and *slam* went the door. They more or less put an index finger in each ear - the respective fingers belonged to the party into whose ears they were inserted - and started chanting, “La. La. La. I can’t HEAR you!! La. La. La...” My sister was shocked.
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	Right. I was saying “age” as in typical ranges. I realize late bloomers, like me, had a prolonged period in my abusers target zone and thus change the “age” spectrum. I just didn’t want anyone assuming a single category was solely applicable to our abuse claims or misconstruing the previous post. Thanks for listing the details. At least I wasn’t wrong wrong.
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	I believe the term/categorization is based on age of victim/fixation, yes? Three distinct categories, pedophile being the second age range. I may be wrong.
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	I’m not faulting anyone. I just report the news.
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	I’ve been asking my friends with kids (or close friends) in Scouts and to a person none of them is talking about it and mostly don’t want to hear anything. This is the parent side, mind you. I recently spoke with a good friend with a young son who’s actively involved. She hadn’t told me that before, even though she knows I am “working on the case.” When she found out “working on the case” meant I was a claimant, her tack and level of interest changed 180 degrees. She started asking me all manner of questions, knew pretty much nothing about YPT and not a single thing about the case, other than “Everything is great...keep rock-n and roll-n with your Troop!” She’s now going back to speak with leaders at all levels to find out why they have told her (and others) anything about this. I told her about those few recent cases we’ve discussed her and she said, “Okay. I’m going to be going on the camp out with my son and interview all the leaders.” She’s not a woman to be trifled with. Interesting field research, at least I find it so.
 
