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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Somehow I knew you stayed on, as I always do, just waiting for that choice hot mic moment. Bam! - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Thanks. How do they stay out of the fray, living or mostly dead? (Another nod to "Princes Bride.") Insurers already say BSA valuing claims is against their own interest. Now, they just won't have to pay any further on those liabilities after they pony up their pittance and get bitten by the Chapter 11 walking dead? For the record, you said "zombie," not me. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Insurance question on which my wife made an over the shoulder comment then raised her hands in that patented "good luck" gesture. BSA emerges a new baby with pink skin and cooing smile. However, they are the principal insured holding the insurance policies and that insured entity has evaporated. Are we saying they can unequivocally substitute in the Settlement Trust as the new owner/insured prior to exiting? Does that really mean the insurers will leave them alone during the coverage battles and claims estimations? They bought the policies and I don't understand how they get "released." Is that purported by well-established precedent? - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
We've discussed this previously, ad nauseam. History and the law are rife with means, methods and bases for calculating this. Correct. No "making whole," but that is entirely different from being able (or not) to calculate value in the realm of legal liability and damages. I know the response is likely to be, "this is not a fine art painter with a history of value of their work who loses their panting hand," but many judgement and settlement numbers are on record to aid this process. THAT is how the TCC arrived at their valuations/estimations. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Per my looong query 'years ago', I was waiting for this. As an attorney and claimant, I can't say I disagree. I'd still like to see the specific ethics provisions/standards on which they rely and are referencing by implication. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
And remember, all but the 5000 pro se claimants would see at least a 40% reduction to those numbers. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
I spoke with someone in the know about that. Their interpretation of his intent was very different than how I took it. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
I don't know what anyone else thinks, but Mr. B. is among my favorites in this dramomedy shot through with intense tragic and farcical undertones. I'd pick him to play Samuel Clemens (over Hal Holbrook) any day and twice on Sundays. He has Clemens pith and misanthropic air. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
I said this once before so, for those who recall, please forgive the echo. I heard with my own two ears an LC talking about major donors holding off on giving until the settlement trust is funding and BSA emerges post-pupation. Stated reason? "I don't want to just give more money to the _____ity _____ lawyers." I know. I know. They're drawing down on reserves and what not, but I can distinctly hear Obi-Wan saying, "These aren't the droids you're looking for." - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2021/09/28/634139.htm - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Agreed as to all and, further, why did she let him go on like that? I was certain she was going check him at five different times. And then, she made a point to remind TCC counsel they were short on time? That was was a a double double, “Say what?! Say what?!” - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
As I said up yonder, this was simultaneously an application for Knighthood, the acceptance speech and an assault on the ramparts of Fort TCC. If that was extemp, I’m Bugs Bunny. (No smart comments, any of you. I did mention that I took a wrong turn at Albuquerque, so I may have it coming.) - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Judge: "I think it HAS to stay on the ballot." - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Yes, as well as the indication of recess. I swung and kicked at the same time and landed on my tuchus. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
How long is the recess? I had to go assault and batter my heavy bag and missed it. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
He gets none of them. Jim Stang’s application over road it with flourish, flare and fury. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Yup. Wow, indeed. The recitation of his CV was the setup for his attack from the High Wall while riding the White Horse with the Sword of Justice extended. - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
I think Mr. KR is making his application for Knighthood, Sainthood, the Congressional Gold Medal and Presidential Medal of Freedom. Good grief. “Ditch the TCC. We got this...” - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
How do I up vote this 100x? - 
	Oops. ‘Combing’. Trawling. Dredging...
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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Amen, brother. It’s right on par with Coalition client recruitment and I think it’s reprehensible. It’s not factual. The ‘sin of omission’ is clearly meant to manipulate thinking/voting toward their conclusion. Manipulating is not informing. There is stating an opinion based on analysis and there is stating half truths to lure one into the ‘trap’. I caught a bunch of rabbits in my handmade traps. “Fresh garden vegetables! Come and get it! See? It’s just a wee box and you can obviously get out because you can clearly get in. Oops. The box closes when you snatch the snack? Oh, that’s right. Guess I failed to mention that...” - 
	In my combining for news, I found this a good piece. It focuses on religious organization COs. https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/september/boy-scouts-church-lawsuit-abuse-bankrupcy-liability.html
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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
I’m sorry, but this is tipping the toe and splashing around in the mystical pool of fabrication, fantasy and manipulation. Seriously? On second thought, they may already be up to their belly button in this magical elixir, ready to wade yet deeper as shortened time and expedience necessitate. Did Reciprocity write this? Inquiring minds... - 
	
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Someone please file such an idea so I can watch Tanc Schiavoni fly around the room like a whirling dervish. I’d pay to see that. (Pretty much a zero percent chance we will get to see either that sort of exit ramp cash or therefore, sadly, the dervish.) 
