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Confession: I’ve never had it. It just went with my “proof of the pudding” and dark prose of the moment. For those who didn’t know what it is, I knew it would be very dramatic. I’m thinking I will really like it because I love all manner of sausage. I’m Austrian and Irish so it’s in my blood.

@CynicalScouter If this was not a Scout forum I would be saying very un-Courteous and un-Kind things to you. Anytime someone defends the BSA you take it to you do not want to compensate them at all or you wish to deny them of council. Quit making up garbage! This is the sword play I was referring to, CS. I don’t think it’s benefiting the people you are defending or concerned about here. I have to agree it seems to have gotten emotional and reactionary, missing the forest for the trees. You seem to have a hair trigger lately and I don’t think it’s representative of your intellect and ability to remain balanced in the discourse. This is my thinking, anyway.

I’m sorry, and I respect you, but why do we have to say things like that? I, for one, have had this duel for many pages back in the day. It is not fair to create that juxtaposition and say “all this good outweighs this little bit of bad.” It is not a reasonable, moral, ethical or compassionate calculus. Please don’t do that. I can tell you from this one victim, it feels very demeaning and invalidating. It just does.

Exactly. That’s very powerful and what an example. I know I can fall prey to my own smart mouth, but I did and do mean that sincerely. If the Doug Kennedy of today had appeared in June of 1972 to talk with the soon to be 11 year old me a month out from my his first Summer Camp, what an incalculable difference that could have made in my life. I don’t dare even think about it.

Let us come and talk to them and their parents about our Scouting “experience” and see how they react. I’ve been told that we, together, comprise the victim class in this case. Maybe we should meet. I wonder how that would go. For those who “know” me in the virtual sense, I value the valuable and despise the despicable of my years in Scouting. I wish no one harm and certainly not that which befell me and my fellows.

As brother John has been saying, what wears me out is the lack of offering solutions or stating what you think is not happening, should happen or lending honest assessments of what we deserve, in context. Some do. Others throw grenades and run off. I don’t think much of this sword play is getting a great accomplished at this point. I think we get pent up waiting for the next plot pivot. My above post is what I think should have been done from the jump. It wasn’t. It won’t. I don’t expect it. It made me said as soon as it was clear that it would be the course of action and inaction. That is why we are where we are in this case. There are battle lines. I think the insurance companies delight at the infighting, which gives them additional delay and strategy time. If someone comes to you and says, “Hey. I didn’t do right by you. I really want to make this ‘right’ (as much as possible). I just ask that you don’t obliterate me and give me provisions so I can do what we both likely agree is important work.” You do not then expect them to quickly drop back, build bunkers and start shelling you. Say what you want, I just don’t see the proof in the pudding. I’m not eating it. I’ve never cared for blood pudding. Is there a path for equitable compensation? Not without a tremendous fight and not if this Plan passes.

I am also a Tier One claimant with multiple aggravating factors. As far as I can tell, the only variable that remains unknown is whether 5+ or 10+ claims implicate my SM/abuser. I tick all the other boxes. Then, I am technically in a Gray 3 state, but have a strong case around the time-bar defense. Whatever. What is my abuse and the implosion it caused worth. Dunno. According to the Claim Matrix, $2.7M or a tad less due to the one unknown. My deep discontent and vexation is twofold: 1. I do not feel like BSA, especially LCs, are being forthright about their assets. If both BSA and the LCs were truly - and I mean deeply and sincerely - committed to equitably compensate BSA child sexual abuse victim claimants, they would be in lock step with the TCC as much as humanly possible. I don’t think that’s happening because it is not the primary mission of this case nor has it ever been. My opinion. Emergence is paramount. Transparency and collaboration clearly are not. My LC has $33M in assets (per the BSA and not BRG) and is contributing under 3. The contribution is a clean scoop from the investments. Why is it honorable to do anything other than a true mea culpa and how can we make this as “right” as we can; and 2. This is a corollary to number one, but I see it as distinct. Again, if the deep commitment were there, BSA and LCs and all the insureds would be fighting the insurance companies side by side with the victims and TCC. They are, after all, the policy holders. Ditching the 40 whatever pages of policies to the Trustee, telling us have fun with your multi-year death dance with the insurance companies is a chicken poop move. Stand with us and fight. You and WE paid for those policies. Pursue maximum coverage for US. Aren’t we what you say you’re all about? Leaders in my day would call us “My/their Scouts.” What are we now? The actions speak so much louder than the words I’m about deaf from watching this theater of the tragic and the absurd. If your child is injured and you hold the policy do you tell the lawyer the policy and agent information and let them go into court and settlement discussions without involvement? Strike that. More to the point, do you give your son the information and tell him, “Go figure this out, son. I need to get back to work and help some other kids, because I’m REALLY, REALLY good at it...now.” Of course not, unless you’re a complete deadbeat absentee parent willing to put your child at further risk of injury. Is this not plain as day? I don’t get it.

I guess I missed the link to this. Help, bitte?

No: 1. There is no jury pool to influence or infect; 2. The gag would have to be universal, as all main players discuss elements of the case outside the courtroom and you don’t direct an order at one party; and 3. Tim Kosnoff is doing absolutely nothing that the BSA, Coalition, LCs and insurers aren’t already doing in spades. Namely, those parties are way down the line in speculating on the case and manipulating “facts” trying to move the needle in the direction of their respective positions. Schiavoni says Century will be bled dry. Anker says he welcomes going back to state court. (Really?) BSA says they’re out of money and these are all the assets we have. (BRG Dashboards, anyone?) LCs are going under. (What’s the average percentage of assets contribution, again?) The Coalition says they’re part of the TCC, Jim Stang is a liar, the TCC has no plan to assist victim claimants and they refuse to make deals where deals can be made. It’s a mess and those parties have cleared the path. Also, I think TK is saying what he believes and is acting in the best interests of his clients, per his perception.

Confirmed. His crew will not be the only survivor claimant voices heard and stories published, for the record.

Thanks, Brother. Is there an image of the Tweet? I’m demanding, right?

Forgive me if I missed it, but would someone post paste his post post haste? As I said, I have no interest in responding, but want to forward it to someone who will be interested in the story. It’s that guy I know...danke. PS - Is it post paste or paste post? I think the latter, so please cut and paste post the correct version in my above rambling. I’m too lazy.

I said I would keep my yap shut and go back to lurking, but I changed my mind. As a BSA victim who experienced “expert” grooming over a span of every year I was in Scouting, this is a very good point. Hire me to draft the survey. Seriously. A team of us would be the best resource, under the guidance of a psychologist and the appropriate (supporting) BSA leaders and probably an attorney. Same. As above, I was a clear target. 10 years old. Father was very distant, stoic, a victim himself and unavailable. My only defenses were flight (didn’t know how), flight (hard to get too far in the most remote campsite on the Reservation with a powerful, charismatic leader watching you), freeze (my default and remaining option) and forget (which I proved to be capable of with great aplomb). See above. I also tried to quote from the discussion on how the guy slipped through the proverbial YPT crack(s). The glaring point that was impressed upon me from this recounting is his voracious appetite to repeat this behavior, hide his past and find new, familiar hunting grounds. Frightening how these monsters roll.

Two things: 1. Is that a Puerto Rico number?; and 2. Does the offer come with with the ocean fishing option or the Schiavoni fishing one? I want to know these things before committing. PS - I will NOT be texting that number!! He offered jocularity in the name of sanity. Oo. I just found what I want on my headstone. Bam.

The request line is now open. What do we want to know? JK (or not).

I don’t Twitter, Tweet or twiddly deet. What’s he sayin?

Mine from 1982 was stolen out of my college apartment while I was visiting my family. The place was basically ransacked. A day after I returned, I saw a guy wearing it while strolling down the main drag around the corner from where I lived. As God is my witness. I confronted him and he ran. Hard to give chase in a press of college students and he was quick, as well he needed to be.

I was cipherin my purchases on the off ramp cash. WHICH I WILL NOT NOT NOT BE TAKING. Disclaimer: The above conversation is a miserable attempt at humor in the midst of a dark situation in which humor is my best hope of balance and sanity. -Management

Easy. You’re desperate to buy that pair of Ferragamos and matching croc belt.

Nature and Circumstances, just FYI: a. Extended duration and/or frequency of the Abuse; b. Exploitation of the Abuse Claimant for child pornography; c. Coercion or threat or use of force or violence, stalking; and d. Multiple perpetrators involved in sexual misconduct.

Upon further review and investigation, it appears Omni neither sent me the actual official packet nor the Godiva. Fellow sexual abuse claimants, please forgive me for any false alarms my post caused you and/or heightened expectations of a soon to arrive packet. I would never want to do that to you. I had not yet opened the box when I posted. My bad.

Just received a 13.2 pound Priority Mail parcel from my friends at Omni Agent. I hope it’s a jumbo gold box filled with Godiva mixed truffles! I’ll share...

Email address “CollinLongshanks”? William Wallace’s nemesis lives? King Edward I, none other than??

Making good on my threat. Here it is. 520766341_InsidetheMass-TortMachineThatPowersThousandsofRoundupLawsuits-WSJ.pdf

Did I mention I changed my name? Henceforth, I shall be referred to as To Be Determined, TBD for ease of use. Has a nice ring to it, right?