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That was literally my first campout. Swollen Current River, Big Spring, innertubes, lots of walking to get there. We did that otherstuff on meeting nights. Was an old school troop. Still played Star Gazers, even in 1990.

It depends on your goals for the trip. I'm thinking energy dense breakfasts for long days of activities. A light lunch gets you to the evening and is quick so that the kids can get back to doing the outing. I'm pretty sure you'd have to eat a whole lot of oatmeal to get you through a 10 miles hike, upstream swims in 50F spring water, repeated rock climbs after quarry swims, etc. Are kids just not as active in camp these days?

I didn't see if anyone posted a link to the survey. Here it is: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fscouting.co1.qualtrics.com%2Fjfe%2Fform%2FSV_bwRYOkYtVhKuhD0%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR023Zyg17gdApjE2j3_U5DHb6Nf2L3DqzO-psskHKUmSN1h2OCgAMzJrlU&h=AT2HR5V67UvWPBRa97b7P7qsVHaI3OL9YOBrRFduGIA-dEiJNkJ3xoejPuCV5zgEjfnC4fRyUBDgLg2881iKNEXYpOqLSV7h35nTohFqu2m9S-5iLC26KIm5S--LCd3AmQ&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT1ksbr1YQp-wVczI4xzZS7m9o0902qtI2rMWKWHUEZ-OTurDvj6z7YyC9YItVBo8jcMHjiNtrez_Ov2IqMDJ1TPEI1QLTmtmROv6oyMl7qrx4KV1lhngmn4qZliOK1lIJKTNBfK_lC9SGyRkJ3Vi0riDBXq0uZCBwrjtj-kT_cqc4HlfhWoHngTJC9xg-Eq9

My troop as a kid had a standard breakfast and lunch in camp. Cast iron skillet on the stove with lard. First in were eggs. Crack them on the pan and drop straight into the hot oil. After they were done, they got pulled out and put on papertowel-topped paper plates. Next up was bacon. This was friend and put on papertowel/plates. Last was sliced potatoes. These were prepped by being washed and slice at about 1/8-1/4". Fried up, removed to drain, salted. That was breakfast. Pans were allowed to cool and then stuck next to a tree for the rest of the day. Next morning, pick out any deb

One other possibility to look at is being a Commissioner for the troop and a couple other units. You are not part of the troop, but you can still go camping with them. You also get to see how various units do things. You can provide this information across the units to help spread what makes troops strong. The added bonus is that you'll be in a fee-paying registered position, which means you can go camping with a Scouts BSA troop. The new YP standards require all adults who go camping be in a fee-paying registered position. There are only so many adult positions in a troop. The district

They paid council registration for 2022, but did not pay dues for 22-23. The dues for 21-22 covered B&G 22, not B&G 23. As of 1 JAN 23, they were not a part of the Boy Scouts of America. Since the former Scout is a 5th grader and was 11, they had no intention of rejoining the pack.

A few more details. The Pack has paid for the adult in this situation to be a registered Assistant Den Leader. The last time he showed up was at a district campout where he came late and didn't help out with the Pack at all. He didn't bring the stove that the AOLs needed to do their cooking requirement, so the DL had to scramble. The former Scout in question told one of our committee members that she really didn't have time for Cub Scouts because she was too busy with Girl Scouts. Even at the Christmas parade, she showed up in a GSUSA uniform instead of a Cub Scout uniform. I don't think

The problem is, that one isn't a Scout if one isn't registered, correct? We don't charge admission to the B&G. The costs are in the dues that everyone is supposed to pay. This family didn't pay dues at all this academic year, even when they were registered. I don't think they are going to pay the $90 in dues and $156 in registration fees at the B&G. We have been trying to get in contact with them for four months with no response. They obviously had no intention of joining the Pack when they showed up on the last day for the AOL den to meet. The event was not open to the general

Well, that was fun. Yesterday was out B&G Banquet. We had a family show up that, until last Tuesday, hadn't made contact with the pack since October. They did not recharter this year, never paid dues this academic year, nothing. I reminded them that they were not members of the Pack and that the banquet was only for Pack members and, apparently, the troop leadership invited by our COR for our AOLs. We hadn't planned on them either, but they were integral to the crossover that was supposed to take place after the B&G, rather than as the addendum that it turned out to be. The AOL d

I'm betting it's up to the local GM. The ones where we sold a couple of years ago is an Eagle Scout. He's since moved on, and we got rejected, or at least, ignored.

Doesn't seem to be a consistent thing. The Lowe's closest to our Pack pretty much ghosted us when we asked for permission. Meanwhile, the 4 other Lowe's in the council, including one in our district, were cool with it and were listed on the TE shift manager. We had to drive 30 minutes to get there, but it was like a tobacco auction until the good popcorn ran out.

We tell our Cubs to sell, sell, sell because I'd rather spread the cost of Scouting across the community than pull it from the parents' bank account. Realistically, even with the 30% commission going to the Scout, it only takes about 4 to 6 hours at Lowes to make the Scout $1000 in commission. That covers their dues, national and council fees, camping, uniforms, and a bit left over for some high quality camping gear. My kids both have Big Agnes sleeping bags and air mattresses with $0 coming from our family's accounts.

Here's Middle Tennessee Council: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/620477729 Quite a jump between the SE and the deputy. For comparison, Occoneechee Council in NC: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/560529984 I think Occoneechee has a far superior camp and overall facilities.

I like the idea of the board. I actually got excited about the Change the board! part. The quoted portion is where I about choked. At $35, it was worth giving as a give for 5 years. I can't believe the silver border square knot is now $500! It can't cost that much to operate NESA. Maybe they should shrink down the scholarships. You already have to be a NESA member to apply. If you can afford to spend $100 on a 50-year membership, you probably aren't hurting for money.

I talked to the dad today. We discussed both sides of the issue and I think he's in agreement that it's better to start with the troop on March 1st rather than holding his son back. It would be different if we had a Webelos Den behind him, but we don't. Better that he start progressing toward Eagle with kids his own age than hang out with 9 year olds.

That leads me to believe that the admissions committees don't have a clue about the AOL. Let's be real, it's nowhere near the level of an accomplishment of a First Class Scout, let alone Eagle.

That's my thought too. I have a hard time buying into the level of commitment for getting the patch when no action was taken for over a year and a half. There are lots of packs around. The dad is an Eagle Scout. Grandpa was a CM and SM. I get the legacy thing, but given that the AOL really isn't much more than spending 6 months in Cub Scouts and getting 5 pins, I can't see it being worth holding a kid back from being in a troop and getting ready for summer camp.

No, he hasn't been registered since he was a Bear.

The school calendar seems to be a pretty good source for when the school year ends. By "came to us in December" I mean the dad sent us an email. They didn't show up until last weekend. They just turned in the application. By June, we are in our summer mode, which means no real meetings because everyone is on vacation for the summer. As long as the parents understand that there will not be a crossover ceremony, it's probably ok. I just can't see why you wouldn't want to hang out with Scouts your own age, rather than with a group where the oldest is in 3rd grade.

I have a parent who really wants his son to earn the AOL. Their pack folded a couple of years ago and they finally came to us in December 2022. The boy turns 11 in April. In order to meet the 6 month requirement, he'd have to be registered by now, right? I recommended that he just wait a couple of months and join the troop, but the dad isn't accepting of that idea. As of Feb 25, we will no longer have an AOL Den Leader, so it will be 100% on the dad to make sure everything gets done. I'm not sure how we get the 6 months in between now and the end of the school year on June 9.

You don't think that the same types of people complaining about the OA now won't be slightly offended at an organization that uses a major participant in sustaining and enhancing the colonization and oppression of Africans as a fulcrum? The UK removed a statue of him from the public space. BSA doesn't broadcast B-P's involvement in Scouting on its brochures. He's not at the forefront of anything. There has to be a reason for that. I'm betting that the folks in Irving would rather keep his name out of anything that isn't involved with die hard Scouters - like in Wood Badge.

The problem I see is that if you remove all the stuff that creates the proper setting and mood, you basically have something that isn't much different than the Calvin and Hobbes club. Realistically, the OA is basically network Scouting with a focus on service. It is the ceremonies that make it special. Think about Disney World. If you took out all of the scenery in the Peter Pan ride, would people spent 120 minutes in line to ride it? It's the suspension of disbelief that brings impact to the ideals of the OA as described in the ceremonies. They are basically parables. Jay Dunbar,

No one has been able to answer why the opinions of Indians who are against the OA are more valuable than those who are in favor of it. I'm pretty sure the guy who wrote the latest incarnations of the ceremonial texts is an Indian. Given his level of involvement in the OA as a youth and adult, I don't think he is against it.

So, Switzerland is in Europe, which is a little to the east of North America.

This is the big issue. If we are going to get rid of regalia, then we also need to ditch all AIA references - the names of lodges and chapters, the term "lodge", all the ceremonial texts, the names of many camps, and even the word "arrow". I can't think of another culture in North America that is associated with the use of arrows.