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Everything posted by Tired_Eagle_Feathers

  1. I don't really have an opinion on the national leadership of Scouting, but I will say that this is clearly just a way to dump/force negotiations on sexual abuse settlement claims. This is the way businesses legally shirk their financial obligations. Not really a fan of it but this is what businesses do. Doesn't sound incompetent to me in that regard.
  2. It was never a big part of scouting when I was in scouts. About the only time we really encountered it was when we went to a regional event with other troops. I was not raised with a faith, and neither are my kids. This is becoming more and more the norm, and I expect that eventually Scouting will catch up with it to stay in existence, like they have with girl Scouts and gay members and such. Religion is rapidly fading in the United States. By 2035 there will be more people who claim no religious affiliation than people who claim a Protestant faith. And by age, it's even st
  3. I am more of the "pick and choose" kind of Scouter. I like Scouting as a whole, but for me, I'm in it for the scoutcraft. That's what turned my crank as a Scout, and what I want my son to learn. Now frankly, I have considered just "leaving it", and we'll just go camping as a family. I was talking with my brother-in-law over Thanksgiving and that is what they decided to do. He tried Cub Scouts with his son but found it to "chaotic" and decided they would just go camping as a family. I think Scouting as a whole is a great organization when it hearkens to its roots in scoutcraft and lea
  4. Nah, we're going to do our own thing. This weekend we have a pack campout. The pack does not plan any activities for the weekend other than meals and the campfire. So, my son and I are going to do our own thing. We are going to plan our own meals, and have our own campfire, and cook our own food, and work on lashing projects, like making a table. It's going to be cold, so we'll want an evening campfire we can actually sit next to. For my son and me, sitting around the fire is a time for relaxing and chatting, maybe singing songs. It's not a vaudeville act. The other thing that really g
  5. I'm surprised they didn't go with MT and FT.
  6. I think the acrobatics the organization is doing to try and not say the word "girl" is preposterous. You can be a girl Scout and not a Girl Scout.
  7. One of the things that irks me so far with my son's Cub Scout experience (I was never in cubs, just Boy Scouts) is this pervasive idea that everything has to be comedic, or slapstick cornball to be "fun". Even during the BALOO training they emphasized that there should never be a dull moment during the campfire and if there is the leader should jump in with some kind of space-filling cornball thing to keep it "fun". At the last district campout last weekend my son opted to go back to our campsite and have our own campfire rather than go to the big group campfire. He finds the cornball n
  8. My dad was poor as a kid. They had to borrow a bucket of water from the neighbors to flush their toilet. As a scout and made his own pack. Had a wooden frame.
  9. We are supposed to be getting an REI here next fall. I think the actual solution to my carrying weight problems is to sneak all my gear into my son's backpack.
  10. I remember when I was in Scouting that when I first started out I wanted to put every little cool thing in my pack that I could. In the end I tried to see how little I could put into my pack. When you think about it, you are really only going to be gone for a weekend. About the only thing you absolutely have to bring is water. Once we took Wilderness Survival, it really changed the way we approached food on hiking trips. We did not want to bring cooking gear beyond our own personal mess kits. And even those were sometimes forgone for a simple plastic plate and a fork. We didn't wan
  11. I found this. I guess internal frame packs are the thing now.
  12. So I dug my old backpack out of the attic and discovered that the nylon straps are disintegrating. The frame is aluminum and the bag part is fine. I can probably make new straps from leather. I looked online at REI and all the backpacks today look like a giant duffle bag with straps. Not at all what I grew up with. How do you attach a bed roll, sleeping bag, and tent to these new kinds of backpacks?
  13. The South, particularly the rural South, is still very "outdoorsy". My question is, why weren't they (or were they) doing Girl Scouts before?
  14. Just talked to my wife. Yes, I am a Girl Scout, but our son is not. But, he can (and does) go if the Troop Leader fills out the paperwork.
  15. Yes, by one child going to a GS troop and another going to a CS troop we are basically doing what BSA considers "Family Scouting" right now, I suppose. But, I am also a registered Girl Scout, as is, I think, my son. Evidently it's up to the leader whether or not males can come on outings - they simply have to sign up for the additional insurance. I taught lashing at the last campout I went to. It was amazing - they did kayaking, canoeing, archery, fire building, cooking, and more, and they camp out both Friday and Saturday nights. Like I said, I'm not sure what advantage the BSA i
  16. Oh there's no fear on that account. My wife basically pilfered all my old scouting handbooks to use for her Girl Scout troop. She is very hard core. The funny thing is (well, not so funny) that we do more activities when we go on Girl Scout trips (my son and myself also) than when we go on most Cub Scout activities. I'm kind of just marking time until we move up to Boy Scouts next year. Steve
  17. I've been reading about the "Patrol Method" here. I always thought that we did the "Patrol Method" back when I was in Scouts, as we had patrols. But, there were always adults around, too. It seems the actual "Patrol Method" is extremely hands off. I'm not sure I completely agree with that. For example, a few weekends ago I went on a Weblos invite Boy Scout campout with my son. They were attempting to teach the Weblos how to start a fire, and failing miserably. Mindful of the "Scout Lead" philosophy, I bit my tongue for as long as I could, but finally went and brought them some tissue pa
  18. Yeah, I considered some of the consolidation, but it seems to me that there isn't enough to make it worthwhile. Basically the pack meeting and the annual pack campout. My wife's big complaint (and mine too) is that as a Girl Scout Troop they were very gung-ho about getting certified trained people since my daughter started around kindergarten and they do way more stuff than Cub Scouts even dream about. My wife was so annoyed when she thumbed through the Weblos book and got so excited when she saw the pictures of kids in canoes only to discover that Cub Scouts can't actually use canoes
  19. I've been reading up on this "Family Scouting" stuff. https://i9peu1ikn3a16vg4e45rqi17-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Family-Scouting_Infographic_v10-1.pdf I think it's pretty clear that the primary driving force here is decades of declining membership. But the infographic states that the rationale is that families are so busy that they would prefer a "one stop solution" for Scouting. As the father of a son and daughter, and my wife is the troop leader for her Girl Scout troop and my son is in Cub Scouts, I agree, it would be great to have just one activity to juggle
  20. I have to admit, when I first heard "Family Scouting" then a "one stop shop for families" is exactly what I had in mind. Just like Cub Scouts has "family scouting" where everyone, siblings and both parents, can attend activities. I assumed Boy Scout Family Scouting would be the same thing. If it's really just "Separate but Equal" then nothing has changed - my daughter may as well keep going to my wife's Girl Scout Troop and we will continue juggling schedules between two different troops and activities for my son and daughter. It sounds to me like Boy Scouts is trying to ease into
  21. I am brand new at this leadership stuff. In my view, people need to be "voluntold". It's just like when you need someone to call 911 - you don't say, "Somebody call 911!" Instead, you point at a particular person and say, "You call 911!" Generic pleas for help often go unanswered because everyone assumes that someone else is going to step up. Put people on the spot. When you have your parents sitting there go up to a specific parent and ask them, "Will you take the YPT training this week?" Make them commit or shirk publicly. Go right down the row.
  22. Hi all, I'm new to volunteering as a leader. My son is in Weblos 1. Is there a place I can go to read all the different kinds of rules? I took the YPT training, but I'd like to read them all again. Is there a central repository for all BSA training rules and literature?
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