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Not really. On May 28, ABC News tracked the 21 states that started opening up before May 4. There was no major increase in deaths or infections. Also, you can drive into NM and not have to do the 14 day quarantine.

NM seems to be implementing some extreme restrictions while other states are in the process of opening things up. A week or so ago ABC News reported that states that began opening before May 4 saw no increase in deaths or infections. I disagree with what NM is doing, but that doesn't really matter. Sad news.

I saw the commercial today for the law firm compelling people to come forward to sue BSA. The commercial comes across just like all of the "Slip and Fall, Give Us a Call" law firms that advertise all the time. People who were hurt as kids deserve compensation. I just wish the individuals responsible were the ones being punished. Not just the ones who committed the acts, but also those who participated in the coverup.

Great. There's another lawsuit against BSA.

We need to change. Even without the lawsuits and bankruptcy, we need to change. We're going the way of bowling alleys right now. I'm 50 and as a kid, I lived in a bowling alley. It was tough getting a open lane at times. People belonged to leagues. Since then, society changed and belonging to a league is not something people want to do. We can't be nostalgic. We have to figure out how we can serve today's youth. Lots of people think they have the answers. I don't claim to know who has the right answers. I suspect adults younger than me with younger kids will know better than people 50 -

Summit is apparently filling up. The first week we wanted is no longer available.

I'm not sure this is a good decision. As of today, we are moving from a now-closed Council camp to Summit's merit badge camp. We asked some questions including if they plan to reduce capacity. I was quite surprised that they intend to operate at full capacity. Here's some other info we got from them. a. All troops will be required to monitor scouts and adults temperatures daily beginning 5 days prior to arrival. b. Temperature checks and additional screening will be done upon arrival and daily while we are there. (So arrive early) c. Face Masks/PPE will be requir

Do you think BSA or anyone can predict what government actions will occur this summer that affect HA camps?

To be fair, I don't think that's what they meant. They will comply with state law. If NM says all is good, but then in mid-June changes to shutting things down, there's no way Philmont can know that in advance. Any group going to any summer camp has to accept this possibility. If you can't, then you need to take the options for canceling.

We're going to try to make this work. It's about the same drive as our planned summer camp. They will offer an end of June session if they can get 600 participants to commit to that week.

Northern Tier has an update for today. Canada locations closed for the summer due to the border closure. Swim test is pretty much if you've passed in the past you're good. Part C health form expiration extended. WFA not required. Guides will be trained. http://www.ntier.org/Covid-19/

As we get closer, I suspect the announcements will be much more location-specific rather than coordinated.

I just got this email. It is with a heavy heart that we inform you that, after a thorough review, the National Capital Area Council has decided to suspend our resident camp programs at Goshen Scout Reservation, Camp William B. Snyder, Camp Airy, and the Day Camp program for the 2020 summer season. We know camp is an important part of every Scout’s summer, and this decision was not made lightly. This is not the end of our summer programming, however; NCAC has assembled a team of volunteers who are designing a fun, exciting alternative program that provides advancement opportunities for our

Not to play lawyerball, but a large percentage of Phlying Philmonters fly into Denver and drive into NM. If you fly in May 31, is it a 1 day quarantine, increasing by 1 as you go back for 14 days into May?

If that requirement isn't removed by July 1, Philmont will cancel treks. Really, that requirement needs to end much sooner than that for rangers and staff flying in to be there in time to be trained.

I do see that now. Thanks.

That's a good question. Philmont is a different animal and BSA has some political pull. They MIGHT get an exception.

We were set to do Powhattan there. We're discussing taking the option of Summit this summer. Their merit badge schedule looks odd to me. Either I'm reading it wrong or they're doing some, like canoeing, in 3 hours. Here's the schedule. Am I reading it right that canoeing is done in 3 hours? http://44qx633l2wnm2ire6p28zc8u-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/JSC-2020-Program-Schedule.pdf

We're now in a bit of a pickle. We have 7 scouts and 2 adults who want to go. We can only have 8. We could probably get enough scouts to make 2 crews with scouts outside of our troop. Getting 2 more adults is the challenge.

Smug, condescending scouters. It's one of the biggest reasons I don't like camporees. That and the troops at camporees who decide cooking breakfast in their troop starts at 4:30am.

What is the coffee situation at NT? Do they provide instant coffee and you boil water in the morning? There isn't much info on this important safety item.

They're all the same. Our NT trek this year is at the end of July is on. We paid for 2 crews, but can only fill 1. We've signed up for Sea Base next year and made the first payment. We've made our deposit. If your trek is still on this year, but you can't make it, you can get a refund minus 10% or apply the payment to an HA trek next year. I'm hoping that we can take 100% of our fees for the NT crew we're cancelling this year and apply it to our payment due for Sea Base next year.

After polling our troop, we only have enough scouts and adults for one NT crew. We'd signed up for 2. Between financial issues (including not having our fundraiser) and peoples' concerns about travel, many chose to drop out. I'm not sure where we are on payments for Sea Base next year and if we can transfer the NT credit for one crew to that or we'll get the refund minus 10%.

Well, it looks like they're going to operate this summer. I'm relieved they'll waive the WFA & CPR requirements. I also like their very reasonable policy of not just allowing people to apply to a later 2020 trek or 2021 trek but also refunds minus 10% if you just can't make it. We're going to poll our troop to see who can/is willing to still go. Losing our mulch fundraiser is going to be an issue for several scouts, I'm sure. We might only be able to fill 1 crew for NT and we registered for 2. http://www.ntier.org/Covid-19/ https://www.philmontscoutranch.org/coronavirus/

I can certainly understand your situation since you've committed the funds. We were just about to do that when everything shut down and we've been in a holding pattern since. I just don't see how the HA camps can expect to operate this summer. Still no WFA classes. People can't get physicals. Financial situations for many people will make it a challenge, too. It's not just the virus risk, it's all the other aspects that will vary greatly troop to troop. I hope we have the option of a refund. We've paid for Sea Base next year, so we can't just push it off a year.