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If the poles were in your pack, then they'd be be useless as trekking poles. There are frameless packs that use a sit pad to provide some weight transfer to the hips. These are not meant for heavier loads. There are lighter framed packs like my Zpacks Arc Haul (23 ounces, 62 liters) as well as ones from Hyperlite Mountain Gear, ULA, Seek Outside and others. My son used the new REI Flash 55 pack that is very light. You have to have very compact gear and not overpack if you go with a pack that size. Adults can use a solo tent. I did this past summer and was glad I did. I'm 6'3" and 200 pounds. The REI solo tent is a similar size. You're not taking much into your tent, so you don't need much room. If you have an odd number of scouts, one scout (typically an older one) can tent solo, too. Most trekking pole tents like the Tarptent one I used do not come with poles. You can purchase poles separately.

But Philmont won't allow you to use a tarp, if that's one purpose. I'll also bet the tarp and netting you use will weigh more than these tents. Ultralight tarp material is not cheap. AKA yellow water. 😁

I noticed that, too, and I suspect it's a typo. These were just released. There's no way the pole only weighs 1 ounce. These do appear to be good options for anyone looking for a backpacking tent, whether an adult looking for a solo tent or scouts wanting a 2 person tent.

I picked several merit badges that I felt qualified to do and were ones our scouts typically have an interest in doing, particularly some Eagle required badges like personal fitness and hiking.

Right, I'm referring to the adult leader fee.

They just want the money each year for the adults already registered. And of course YPT must stay current. I've got 3 more months until that is due.

Don't even THINK about stealing my idea for ScoutHub. Primo Philmont treks are going for 3x face value. Sadly, Summit treks are pennies on the dollar.

Our troop currently uses Troopmaster, not Scoutbook, but I'm still good there. my.scouting is where I checked my account for my BSA ID to register for Sea Base today. On the account page, it shows that my MB counselor registration expires at the end of the month. I mentioned it to our CM. She's going to check on what's needed for me. I think it's dumb that I have to fill out essentially the same form for MB counselor that I did to be scoutmaster. I get keeping the background check and YPT current, but everyone hates forms and repeating info they already have should be eliminated. I go through much of this every school year with the kids. Some of the forms finally come pre-filled with some of their info.

We're in the same boat. (I'll see myself out)

Two crews. Our ASM checked 2 boxes for the same adventure on the same date. Ran through the personal info and payment. Then he got the email confirming the 2 crews. There is not lottery like Philmont. This is like buying concert tickets on Ticketmaster. If you get through the process, you have your date/adventure.

My MB counselor registration expires soon. Do I have to fill out a complete application app like they have no idea who I am or is there a simpler way? BSA really needs to simplify things like this. If you have my info and there's no change, all you need is my BSA ID, signature, etc.

We got 2 slots for our preferred date for Out Island Adventure. Two of us were trying this morning and their web site couldn't handle the traffic. We'd get so far, then Internal Server Error. After about 10-15 minutes, the other guy got through and registered. For anyone who comes across this post, here is how registration works. 1. it's like buying concert tickets. Keep clicking the link starting just before 9. You're competing against other troops at the same time. if you can, get multiple people trying, but be on the phone with each other. Everyone keep trying until 1 person gets ALL the way through registration. Obviously everyone else stop so you're not paying for a slot you don't need. 2. Next page is just info about registration. 3. Next page, you pick your adventure from a drop down. 4. Next page has a list of dates with check boxes. If there are multiple slots for the same date available, check a box for each crew you want to take. 5. Next page is where you fill out your info (name, council, district BSA ID, etc.) and continue on to deposit payment of $250 per crew.

https://www.rei.com/product/168564/rei-co-op-flash-air-1-tent https://www.rei.com/product/168565/rei-co-op-flash-air-2-tent REI will likely have these on sale at some point. These look like a great deal and are really light, particularly if you use trekking poles. Definitely a BIG weight savings over a Philmont tent.

I'll give them a call for strategy advice. With Philmont, we had a list of acceptable dates and that's what you put in. We got our first choice.

Our kids don't get out until mid-June. It used to be worse. Thanks for the info. I'm susceptible to motion sickness and don't want another week on a sailboat. Yeah, that registration date is coming, so trying to be prepared, as the saying goes.

Sounds cool. They might want something different after doing NT or they might like it enough to do more canoeing.

We had some seasickness (including me), rain every night that forced us all to sleep down below where it was hot, stinky and frankly a youth protection issue. We had a captain who thought he was a drill sergeant and 2 scouts (no longer in the troop) causing problems. Some of those things would not happen again. Some might. Some certainly would. Anyway, it all leads those who would be going again to not want a sailboat adventure. So if we can't get the island adventure, we'll investigate other 2021 options. We did Philmont in 2019 and are doing NT in 2020. Summit isn't one we're considering no matter how much BSA wants to push it on us. MOHAB and "roll your own" are some alternates for 2021.

Out Island Adventure. We did the big sailboat with 20 people in 2018. Not enough interest in SCUBA and they don't want to do sailboats a second time.

Our troop wants to do Sea Base in 2021. We went in 2018, but the person who did out lottery registration is no longer with the troop. Our troop only wants to do 1 of the adventures. It looks like you choose a date and prioritize adventures. It would be nice is you could pick and adventure and prioritize dates. Is the registration like Philmont where you can start an adventure any day or do adventures always start on the same day? If we don't get the specific adventure, we'll choose something else to do that year. Thanks!

They are outside the inner net part. You put your trekking pole in place and extend it vertically until the tent is taut. No real need to even check the measurement. In fact, you can set up the fly separate from the inner if you're camping during bug-free season. Then just use a ground cloth. I like tents like this that can be set up in the rain with the inner already attached. Most tents set up inner first and then the rain fly. Then the inner gets wet.

This is a double wall tent, not a tarp.

Well, you're not even allowed to have your backpack in the vestibule, so it shouldn't be a problem. I used a Tarptent Aeon, which also has little leftover interior space, but I didn't need it.

If you're a scouter going to Philmont and use trekking poles, there's a fantastic deal on a highly rated, lightweight 1 person backpacking tent on Drop right now. https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-dan-durston-x-mid-1p-tent Yes, adults can use 1 person tents if that's what you chose at Philmont. This one is less than 2 pounds, which is a significant weight savings (and space saver) over splitting a Philtent, which is closer to 6 pounds.

I do 20 minutes on the rowing machine, but also mix in a mile swim and will go back to the stair stepper, too. I do weights and functional exercises. I typically get there 3 times per week.

I've also switched my gym cardio from the stair stepper (Philmont last summer) to the rowing machine. I've been taking my son to do that, too, along with the personal fitness merit badge stuff. The rowing machine isn't a perfect match for the canoe stroke, but it helps. We also do shoulder press, chest press and leg exercises on top of the merit badge requirements.