Jameson76

I would slightly differ in that view. BSA National and pretty much every interview CSE has had emphasized and at times over emphasized family. He talks about families doing things together, that families want programs they can do together, and that scouting can be the program they can do together. The surveys tell them family is key and they want to do things. As a family. One can infer that if the new families that come into Cubs with the family transition to Scouts, the expectation is the family will come along. Those of us that are dinosaur troops, all male leaders on outings, us

While it may be great it is also required for any outings, and for good reasons. Note that Cubs and Scouts are two separate programs. What is great for Cubs and 6 - 10 years olds does not translate to working with 11 - 17 years olds

To be clear, as of 2/13/2018 and at 10:04 EST, as we may understand the basic intent of the decision to allow Girls into the Cubs and Scouts; Cub units do have the option to remain single gender. Also as faintly outlined there will be Girl Troops, so current Male only Boy Scout Troops will remain as such, so not really an option for Girls to join a current troop. That is of course subject to change based on a potential future survey given to people not involved in scouting at this time at the whim of BSA National (results will not actually be presented to the general public only the feed

All very accurate The final point (6) is the one that BSA National has not done really any work on. They are facing declining membership. Rather than fully understand why some units are successful and grow or at the very least stay healthy, and others decline, we get this broad brush solution of "the family" and we are not meeting the needs of "the family" That is at best a straw man that anyone with any real world experience in Scouting knows is BS. The comments by our CSE that this will help by being a "one stop" program ring hollow. If BSA holds to single gender dens, then eve

So if they can profit say 30% per leader ($89) they only need like 2.4 million leaders to attend to handle the balloon payment due in a few years

We have 6 patrols and once you are assigned to a patrol, that is your patrol for your tenure. Note we have about 90 scouts, so roughly 15 assigned per patrol. That being said, there are they older scouts who may be not as active, and we split up the new scouts each year based on actual activity to keep a good core group. For most outings we have 6 patrols that function. Typically about 40 attend each outing. Our lake outing had 70 with about 20 leaders in and out, so 90+ in camp for the period. Some of the outings two patrols may combine so we have 6 -8 scouts working together. In th

I would have to agree. There are many many activities that troops can do, not saying WDW is a bad one, but it would be pricey. We try to keep our outdoor trips and campouts to those things a Scout's family can do, but may not want to do as a family. Backpacking, kayaking on a river, canoeing in the swamp, biking on a rails to trails, primitive camping at a State Park, etc. Each year we do a trip that is longer, but still has some outdoors or adventure elements. Staying overnight on a museum ship, touring some of the military museums, ziplining. Also we work very hard to keep the cost

Interesting to put in something about the Scout law. IMHO while in theory correct, the challenge is that this is not what many of the Boys and Leaders signed up for. BSA National has substantially changed the rules of the game. To put out that if one does not support this one is not upholding the Scout Oath and Law is not really accurate If you agree to be involved in something (job / purchase / volunteer), are committed and then someone from outside what you are doing says you have to do that plus all this other stuff, that changes what you agreed to get involved with and by that same

Yes they in fact do have some facilities. However in a camp of say 500 (youth, staff, and leaders) maybe 5% were female and all were adults or staff who typically utilize leader/adult facilities. Same with female leaders in camping sites, again a smaller number and all adults. Now you will have youth. Most BSA type shower houses have a group area, restrooms and showers for the youth. Yes there are stalls for showers and toilets, but still a "group" shower house. Some camps for the shower house only have adult and youth sides. The female bathhouse may be in another area. In ca

We have had some accelerated rank movements recently also. We did have a question come up (Greenbar or troop meeting, cannot 100% recall) that was basically will we have to have girls in the troop? Our response to the scouts was that Scout troops would not be coed, that there would be Female troops and Male troops, that based on information we had, girls could not in fact join our troop. There was a follow-up question as to whether the CO was going to start a girls troop. Our feedback on that was we did not know. Our plan was to continue program as we had for the last 30+ years. If a

Good Lord, that would be the BEST if BSA did something like this. Get all adult members in BSA to vote on the board and major decisions? Hilarity and chaos would ensue. This could be a huge TV event and multi- episode reality show. Mark Burnett could produce it and with the revenue BSA could erase some of the Summit debt.

1) People taking Scouting too seriously. It's supposed to be fun, the boys (well until recently only boys) are supposed to enjoy coming to meeting and outings. If it's school in the woods, probably will not be much fun. If you spend 20 minutes going over rules and regulations before heading into a basic situation, probably will not be much fun. Stop quoting chapter and verse of this or that requirement, regulation, or guideline. As leaders you HAVE to be enjoying the game of scouting. That will pervade the unit. Not that one cannot be serious when needed, be urgent when called f

And Summit has been so wildly successful...let's just emulate that

Lot of opinions on this. IMHO it is a lack of focus on core programs and building on what BSA does well. A successful Scouting program is not a "season" or a "class" that is audited. Hopefully scouts do not merely attend they get involved. Most of the paid scouters are not judged on program or activity by the units, it's all numbers and dollars There is a disconnect between the local successful units and what BSA Council and National perceives as what needs to be done. Too much adjusting of requirements, adding things, deleting things. It's all about the programs. A youth (gott

Don't try to understand 'emJust rope, throw an' brand 'emSoon we'll be livin' high an' wide

Well...unless the scouts fell trees and build the cabin, that would count I would assume???

Should be under the CO. If it is in fact registered in her name, then she is on the hook for any damage or liability that arise out of it's use. Presume she is paying the registration each year and (depending on the state) any ad valorem tax, and maintaining insurance on the trailer. For our unit the trailer is registered and tagged by the church. Typically we forget to look at the tag and have in fact been stopped on the way to an outings due to expired tags. Most officers send us on our way (met a really nice Eagle Scout who was with the State Patrol one time) and we get the s

Nothing fictitious about the EM-50. Keep one in the garage, lousy on city mileage though. Picked it up in a surplus deal during one of the drawdowns. Hard part is mixing my own fuel for the flamethrower. Neighbor kids love it, keep getting letters from the HOA however

Yep. All council is not bad, but really different objectives. The challenge is we (volunteers and leaders) are focused on one element (they are called scouts and fun) and the "Council" is focused on other elements (called money and numbers) You hit the nail on the head in that many of use will continue to focus only on our units. As one who is a former professional (lasted a couple of years, way too much Sustaining Membership and numbers while not near enough program), former district volunteer, etc etc now focus is my unit. Sadly I am torn. I know the value that scouting bring

Is it a cool Urban Assault Vehicle ?? That would be really cool

There was a Playboy patrol From articles in May of 1974 ATLANTA (UPI) - The Rabbit Patrol or the Bunny Patrol might have been acceptable. But the Atlanta Area Council of the Boy Scouts of America decided yesterday that a Playboy Patrol was going a little too far. A group of boys in Troop 61 of suburban Smyrna named themselves the Playboy Patrol last week, rejecting traditional patrol names like the Owl Patrol or the Mole Patrol as boring. A presentation of bunny patches and flags was to have been made to the troop tomor­row from a personal emissary from Playboy head Hugh Hefner and