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  1. Our Troop has a Scout with a severe nut allergy, which also includes soy. We became a "no peanuts" Troop the minute he joined. His dad is very active and along on every campout, and the Scout is now old enough that he knows what he can have and can't have. I understand your concern. I hope you will be able to serve this Scout despite his allergy.
  2. What does the PLC think should be done? No one can add to, or subtract from, the requirements in Scouting. All Scouts pledge to do their Duty to God. How does the Scout leadership believe this should be handled?
  3. "When you decide to be a scouting volunteer you’re making a choice to serve, mentor, and guide all youth within the program" This is a very important point, and I thank you for adding it to the discussion.
  4. We normally have Adults drive, although in some cases (like Summer Camp) we borrow vans from our CO. We do not load the back seat with either Scouts or gear, and it appears that doing so could be one cause of the instability of the vans. So while that cuts down on our carrying capacity a bit, they still hold 11 people - more than my car . As we've grown the last 3 years, sufficient transportation for Scouts and gear has started to become an issue.
  5. I'm as big on proper grammar and spelling as the next neurotic, but I also "get" that English is a living, evolving language. I'm ok with it as long as we can still understand each other.
  6. We also use "Start, Stop, Continue." In my mind, it's all "reflection" which is the word I use during Court of Honor or when I'm describing the program to Adults. Whatever term you choose, the important thing is that the Scouts understand the purpose.
  7. It surprises me a little that you offered only a single specific solution like that. I usually use open-ended questions like "Well, what's another way you could get breakfast?" (although to be honest I would be very unlikely to be involved in a situation such as you describe, because I'm very, very rarely in a Patrol campsite and during the breakfast hour would be enjoying some coffee or orange juice in the Adult campsite). AAR's are very effective learning tools. We try to always have the Scouts do them immediately after an activity (particularly campouts) as even waiting until the nex
  8. NSP is together from March/April through Summer Camp. In September, everyone can choose whatever Patrol they want - 6-8 as well, let me know who's leading it. I encourage Scouts to try and work out their differences if they can when they don't like their Patrol for some reason, but it ain't jail. We don't have much shuffling around - one so far since last September.
  9. It's always discouraging to hear stories of Adults working so hard to ruin what should be a great experience for everyone. But I've never been in any youth organization where there weren't parents causing problems for no reason. I hope this will work out for the good of the Scouts and that the new CM either realizes that's who he's supposed to be serving, or finds some other youth organization to ruin. One piece of advice - "I am saying its wrong IMO to force someone away from their son when they' want to be with him." This raised a red flag for me in regard to your son's future in
  10. We've started to run into this as we've become a bigger Troop over the last few years (now at 40 Scouts). We are fortunate that we can borrow our CO's large vans and have an Adult with another large van, so after that it's just gear and have several families with large pick-ups and one with a trailer. In a group of 100 families, you are certain to have plenty of these kinds of resources. I agree that a personal discussion with each family is in order until you find what you need. I would recruit other Committee Members to help with this outreach. It is the Committee's job to ensure t
  11. This is a very interesting and informative thread, and I really appreciate all the thoughts.
  12. I empathize, TCD. I have a Scout with similar problems. Always walks around with something in one hand so he "can't help" with things like carrying canoes to the lake. The Scouts don't like him - he almost ended up without a Patrol last Fall until the SPL stepped in and enabled him, which had predictable results for that Patrol (and hopefully a learning experience for the SPL). He has only a nodding acquaintance with the Oath & Law. I've told both the Scout and his parents I'm not sure this is the right program for him. It appears to me the parents have equal parts denial and hope ab
  13. Why were your hands tied? A BOR can refuse an advancement. A BOR Member can lead the Board to refuse an advancement.
  14. I recently agreed to trade a Scout some extra butter from the Adult larder in exchange for some firewood and....a shrubbery!
  15. My personal Scouting experience is as Stosh describes - my Patrol camped independently of any Adults. Now, the home of the Patrol Leader and his younger brother was probably 500 yards away through the woods (in one instance), so emergency evac was close if required, but for 36 hours or so, we were really "on our own." Never had a problem. I tell this story to Adults frequently (probably too frequently) as an example of how Scouting has changed. The Scouts schedule official "Patrol Campouts" and we dutifully send along two Adults, but they have firm instructions about how much time to s
  16. I wonder how many Adults end up not volunteering in Scouts because they're afraid it's "too much work?"
  17. What kind of changes are we talking about? Are you going to be standing alone for these changes, or do you have some Adult support from some folks? Changes usually don't work if no one supports them. It can be a real challenge, but if you're moving the Pack back towards a "real" Scout program without support, I would suggest a gradual approach.
  18. Everyone knows 20 people they could invite to a Scouting event who aren't involved in Scouting. Friends, neighbors, work colleagues, families from school, etc. Coupled with a little local marketing and door-to-door ticket selling, I suspect you could do a huge event without really straining. We used to do 400 for a softball spaghetti dinner with the girls not coming close to selling their ticket quota (20 each).
  19. Technically, there's nothing wrong with one person who can counsel all three citizenship merit badges. As a Scoutmaster, however, I'd never assign the same person to do all three with the same Scout. In fact, I've obtained our District MB Counselor list, and have started to recommend adults outside our Troop to the Scouts. Our Committee - when meeting in Boards of Review - officially frowns on one Adult dominating any Scout's Merit Badge or Advancement work. You might remind your SM that it is a violation of the Methods for a Scout to not have numerous and diverse "adult associations."
  20. I agree, and it's not just Camporees or other District/Council events. I suspect Scouts feel this way about going to even the greatest, most interesting campground year after year after year. Mixing it up and having new adventures is a key component to keeping older boys in Scouting.
  21. $300 a year for returning Scouts, $100 at Cross Over - does not include camping food or Summer Camp, but does include outfitting of a lot of Patrol gear (once - if they lose or break it, the Patrol pays to replace). The reality is that very few families actually pay this - a Scout who works at it a little can fundraise all this money, and Summer Camp money and High Adventure money. In addition, no Scout is turned away if his family cannot pay - we either add extra fundraising, or scholarship them.
  22. Happily, my unit(s) don't experience any problems based on your post. Our Pack, Troop and Crew (and, frankly, our Troop and most of the Packs in about a 10-mile radius) enjoy close contact and work together well. This is because we choose to make it that way and aren't counting on someone in Texas detailing "rules" to somehow force it to happen. Girls would ruin Boy Scouts - I've polled the Scouts and they're 100 percent against it - most volunteered they'd leave if girls were let in. This is an Adult idea based on Adult concepts of "fairness" and other politically-correct nonsense.
  23. Hey, Fred, I'd suggest you remind your families that calling another's faith "evil" or another's style of worship "flaky" is a violation of the Scout Oath and Law. You're missing an opportunity to put Scouts on the right path.
  24. We generally didn't do three-day weekend campouts when the Troop was smaller because we just didn't have critical mass. My view is that we should start considering them, as they give us a chance to travel a little farther to campsites, which brings into play a lot of really cool areas.
  25. On a tangent, it's hard for me to imagine a Troop with 22 families of Adults and only one or two wants to camp. Even before I took an Adult Leadership position, I loved to camp with the Adult Patrol, even though I wasn't previously much of an outdoorsman. We've always had a ton of Adults available. The Committee's job s to ensure whatever resources the boys need are available - including insisting on 2-deep Leadership assistance if their help is necessary to secure it. The CC should be backstopping you by insisting Adults make themselves available for outings, whether they "like" to go or
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