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  1. There is a very good on line course "Staffing the District Committee" which applies to the Commissioner service as well. I recommend it. Here a link that may take you to it: http://olc.scouting.org/courses/dcom/course.cgi?marker=0&courseid=30&euid=K06FF61444AB4094B931133062915570&SessionToken=K398D154F9524BC5AD5154909200099301380E91113C406A8C64853017327033 If that doesn't work, you need to go to myscouting.org, click on e-learning and look for "Staffing the District Committee" as a supplemental course.
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    An Example of a Sub Sub Forum

    Well, you can click on the "comment" option at the bottom of a post. (flag, quote, COMMENT Like)
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    An Example of a Sub Sub Forum

    Ahhh... so you can start a sub thread by clicking on the active thread...
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    Den Flags

    I always liked den flags and find them useful in developing den spirit and solidarity. Pretty frequently, I had den opening ceremonies where each den member had their left hand on the den flag, helping to hold it up, while doing a Cub Scout salute with the right hand and repeating the Cub Scout Promise or Law of the pack. So I looked for ways to USE the den flag during activities. At out June Pack Overnight camp, I promoted den flag making as an acticvity during the camp. Each den made a new den flag to go along with their new den level. Our district day camp made den flags, but it was a poorly planned activity and used pieces cut out of old Scout Camp tents as flag material. Not too good in practice. This year, as Day Camp Program Director, I bought good quality, colorful fabric for each of our twelve dens to make their own den flag. I also made up colorful symbols for each den that were printed off on a color copier and which dens could use on their den flag if they wished to do so. Other printed up Cub Scout symbols and images were provided as raw material for den flags if the dens members wanted to use it. That went pretty well, in my opinion. However, since I haven't been flogging den flags in my Cub Pack, other den leaders no longer bother. SO: Do you find Den flags useful, and what is your experience with den flags in Cub Scout packs?
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    Girls Just Wanna Be Cub Scouts

    << http://abcnews.go.com/US/girls-fight-join-local-cub-scouts-troop/story?id=35159121 >> Just as predicted, once the homosexual angle went away, liberals have found yet another reason to hate BSA.
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    Swords

    Off topic, but I understand the latest thing proposed by Feminists is a weeks paid menstrual leave per period.
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    UUA renews relationship with Boy Scouts of America

    <<The basis, I'm told, of the church is for individuals to find their own God. >> Man creating God in his own image.
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    Now Arriving, the Return of the Lion

    <<t I do remember touring the local newspaper and watched them set print with a lithograph machine. We all got a chunk a print that we got to keep. >> Not to be picky, but you mean a lineotype, which cast slugs of type to be printed on a press. Vastly more efficient, but the same idea Gutenberg had, Linotypes were MARVELOUS Rube Goldberg machines!
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    Now Arriving, the Return of the Lion

    << If Cub Scouts is supposed to be kept simple and made fun, why is everyone burning out?>> Oh, my! Cub Scouts is hugely complex for volunteer leaders and for parents of Cub Scouts. And they keep ladeling on the complexity, more and more every year. I find it VERY BURDENSOME to coach someone through the multiple steps needed to become a registered leader, and increasingly I just don't bother.
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    Cubmaster problems

    I agree ---contact the COR. Unfortunately, few CORs have much of an idea of what they can and should be doing. As a COR myself, I led opposition to an ineffective District Chair and District Commissioner. BSA rules REQUIRE that a district nominating committee recommend district leaders each year, although this requirement is widely ignored. However, as a COR I did insist on a district nominating committee be appointed, and they found new and highly effective leadership for the district. In Scouting, pretty much all adult leaders quit. It mostly just a matter of how long it becomes before people get exhausted and can't do their job any more. I began as an adult leader in 1981, and I'm getting darned exhausted myself. I've been shedding various jobs in recent years so I could do what was left competently. I expect to continue that pattern some more.
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    Girls Just Wanna Be Cub Scouts

    Perhaps Girl Scout should begin admitting boys. That would solve all the problems, right?
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    Recruiter Strip Question

    I was the district membership chair for eight years. I wore the Recruiter strip, because then I always knew where to point when I was talking to Scouts about peer to peer recruiting. Personally, I'd encourage anyone who actively does recruiting to wear the recruiting strip --- and I'd award it to adults who take a hand in unit recruiting. Getting more adults involved in recruiting is FAR more important than BSA trivia about who should wear the strip. I only wish it were a more powerful incentive than it is.
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    Den Leader Issue

    <<I for one feel that if the parents are happy and the boys are happy with this leader, leave well enough alone. >> I agree. I ran our pack's Tiger program for eight consecutive years. The first year I led the Tiger Cub Den is two separate packs. ​With the new program, my old methods and programs which I recycled each year were obsolete, so I've retired from doing den and pack program, by and large.
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    Screwup on the largest level

    Just yet another example of how BSA is so hagridden with complex administrative rules and regulations that--- 1) volunteers can't administer the program 2) councils can't administer the program 3) BSA national can't administer the program. In my opinion ---- BSA should get rid of about 90% of its rules and regulations and get back to trusting people instead.
  15. <<1) Didn't like camping. 2) School/ Sports 3) Perfume 4) Car fumes 5) Job ( to support their perfume and car fume habit). 6) college/ military>> Girls?
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    Boys have more fun.

    <<I was going to sit in on part of a meeting once when i dropped her off at the church. I sort of hung in the back of the room with my younger daughter to observe a few minutes. They were doing some sort of gathering activity craft thing.... the leaders looked like I had three eyes, and they nice told me what time I could pick her up!>> Off the cuff, I think I'd look any such adult in the face and ask them what they are trying to HIDE from parents and adults. If that didn't get the point across, I'd tell them that due to the hazards of adults molesting children in youth programs, you want to be in a position to observe the program. I'd be interested to see how that went over.
  17. << No, they are not being unreasonable or selfish. They are being engaged parents savoring what little time they have left before they become the dumbest people on the planet.>> I agree. BSA is WAY too used to dictating to everyone when they should be accommodating interested people instead. Man, am I tired of that. At present I've spent two months and dozens of e-mails trying to get a Den Leader registered. He can't get the my.scouting.org website to give him a user name. Such things are SUPPOSEDF to be easy. When they don't work they make a pile of make work for paid staff and volunteers. Frankly, I've about had it.
  18. <<A well done Eagle COH can be an inspiration for young scouts.>> That is true. Too bad regular Courts of Honor aren't similarly motivating.
  19. <<I think it's up to the Scout and his family.>> Ummm, here we have the tail wagging the dog.... I again suggest that the primary decision maker should be the Senior Patrol Leader and the PLC.
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    Lodge Flag

    <<Considering Columbus sailed under a Spanish flag, it would prove to be interesting. With overwhelming evidence that Columbus was a Johnny-come-lately, they are now finding that the Welsh got here earlier than Columbus and the Irish (Celts) were even earlier than the whole bunch. >> Yeah, right. Tell me about how Newton was a joke and a joker because he couldn't actually DISCOVER gravity!
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    Yet another DE

    This thread once again reminds me of what I have to be thankful for: A council that is well managed and well funded. District Executives that have consistently worked hard and with reasonable effectiveness to advance the goals and purposes of Scouting. In the past eleven years, we've had one DE promoted to a council fund raising position, and later to a national BSA position. We've also had a DE who has been promoted to Field Director in another council. Both of those men were hard working and effective staffers. Our current DE continues that pattern of being a hard working and effective staff member. My heart goes out to those who aren't as lucky as those in the Chief Seattle Council.
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    Yet another DE

    This thread once again reminds me of what I have to be thankful for: A council that is well managed and well funded. District Executives that have consistently worked hard and with reasonable effectiveness to advance the goals and purposes of Scouting. In the past eleven years, we've had one DE promoted to a council fund raising position, and later to a national BSA position. We've also had a DE who has been promoted to Field Director in another council. Both of those men were hard working and effective staffers. Our current DE continues that pattern of being a hard working and effective staff member. My heart goes out to those who aren't as lucky as those in the Chief Seattle Council.
  23. LOTS of good and interesting discussion here! Personally, I don't think much of holding one ECOH a year when several Scouts have earned the recognition. The BSA standard is that Scouts should be recognized ASAP after earning an award, and I agree with that. Secondly, I think that pretty often, too much is made of the Eagle award. MY preference would be to make the Eagle award as part of the next Troop COH. I was in a troop where a Scout earned the Eagle. His parents wanted to delay holding the ECOH untill all the family members could attend. After continued delay, I again proposed having the Eagle COH ASAP, and again the father of the Scout demurred. That was around 2006 --- the Scout NEVER has had his Eagle COH! (NB: the father was the Scoutmaster.) Rather than asking the honoree what HIS preferences are, I suggest that the right person to weigh in on this is the Senior Patrol Leader, and perhaps the Scouts who received the Eagle at the last mass Eagle COH. If the SPL thinks there are good reasons to change the troop's recent practice, he ought to make his preferences known. Further comment: in my opinion, it's also unreasonable to try to make a big deal of four or five ECOH as separate events each year. That is likely to burden Scouts and Scouters. That's why I favor the ECOH as part of the Troop's next regular COH. To change the subject, I feel the same way about weddings, which are commonly WAY overproduced social events. In my opinion, weddings ought to be held as part of the regular Sunday church service in which all of a religious community can witness. (Not part of a religious community or church? ----Not much of a reason for a wedding then, is there? Have a judge do the honors if it's worth doing at all).
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    Feel a little hurt and angry

    <<It seems like it's really tough for any person not in either the SM or CC positions to really have much of an effect in change.>> Unfortunately, anyone who fails to do a good job seems to be able to affect change in a unit, for the worse. Making a positive change is frequently tougher, as you describe.
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    Lodge Flag

    <<A lot of the issue is local around here. Our state along with all the other PC people out there have required our school mascots to change away from Indian references. One of our schools had Red Raider with an Indian on horseback, and had to change. They changed the logo to a knight on horseback. A lot of people didn't that that was enough, Yet another local school has Vikings as their mascot and the Norwegians don't seem to be too terribly upset because after all the vikings were white people and don't count. The real kicker was the school in our region which was located just outside of an old Indian reservation that the vast majority of students were ethnic Indians. They too were told dump their mascot and logo. That didn't go over very well.>> Heh, heh! These are amusing stories! When some Italians move into the area, perhaps they will complain that COLUMBUS should be recognized, rather than Vikings! That would be a good donnybrook! And it's amusing that Indians who WANT to use Indians symbols are prevented from doing so by the PC Police. Good examples of how politics corrupts culture.
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