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  1. It was my understanding that Girl Scout leaders must take overnight camping training before taking girls camping. They also must have a First Aid trained person with them at such outings. The incidents you described may have been trained leaders just not real smart leaders. How many times in BSA have we seen trained leaders who blatantly ignore the rules?
  2. I've been told by Girl Scout leaders they had to go through a weekend of training to take the girls to ANY type of camping. Also, they have to have a First Aid/CPR trainged person along.
  3. Scoutparent writes: "Evolution is a hoax perpetrated on much of the world. It's interesting to me that if you look at gallup poll results; most Americans do not buy into this hoax" Hmmmmm... According to the Gallup poll on the link Littlebillie gave, it says "about 45 percent of American adults take the Bibles story of creation literally. " When did 45 percent become "most"? I thought "most" meant majority, as in over half.
  4. When you say "Tiger parents taking off" do you mean they leave their child at the meeting? Someone stands at the door and when the parents arrive and try to just "drop and run" you say "I'm sorry your child cannot stay unless you stay". No matter what their excuse is, stand firm. The answere is NO. The Cubmaster's duties are explained in the Cub Scout Leader handbook. You need to sit down with the parents, either as a group or one by one and explain the situation. Without involvement, there is no Cub Scouts. Cub Scouting is about families. They can have some great times with their
  5. Scientific theory is based on facts. How many things do you believe that are "beyond a doubt"? Very few things are "beyond doubt". The Genesis story doesn't have any fact proved 'beyond doubt'. It is something you have choosen NOT to doubt. That's your choice. "As for evolution not having any holes, there are many men (and women) who are very knowledgeable in the sciences that disagree." As for a literal translation of the Genesis creation story not having any holes, any men and women who are very knowledgeable in religion disagree. I'm talking about men and women who are well-r
  6. LISTEN! Where I live the schools DO celebrate Christmas. They decorate for Christmas -- trees, angels, wreaths, etc. They have Christmas spelling words. My son's social studies book talks about the believes of Christians. This is a book used throughout the nation. (don't have the name and publisher handy). Is that not equal time to Evolution??????????? Why do you believe it is NOT taught in schools? Maybe some schools, but it is taught in many. The school has the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. If the school systems are so anti-Christian wouldn't they say "no" to tha
  7. Scoutparent writes: "Of course evolution is not science but a form of religion or anti religion. Don't kid yourself. " You're joking right? Evolution is a form of religion or anti religion???? ::::shaking my head in disbelief::::: Evolution is science theory. YOU are the one making it out to be a bigger thing than it is.
  8. Rooster writes "So what exactly does this mean in regards to the founding fathers who established the U.S. government some 100 to 150 years later. Did you know of a specific Declaration of Independence signer who wanted to put similar laws in the Constitution? My point is Your history may be correct (there were some laws that discriminated against people of various faiths), but your conclusion is wrong (the signers at least collectively did not want this kind of discrimination perpetuated in the new government). In short, I think your comment is an unfair and damning generalization that d
  9. For Rooster: From the "Laws and Ordinances for New Netherland 1638 - 1674" The Director General and council have been credibly informed that not only conventicles and meetnis have been held here and there in this province but also that unqualified persons presume in such meetings to act as teachers, in interpreting and expounding God's Holy Word, without ecclesiatical or secular authority. This is contrary to the general rules, political and ecclesiastical, of our fatherland; and, besides, such gatherings lead to trouble, heresies, and schisms. The director general and council, howeve
  10. Maybe it's because my son just hasn't gotten that far in school yet, but I haven't seen what the teach about evolution. What I have seen is that every year there is a Christmas wreath on the outside of the school building, a tree in the foyer and the kids make Christmas tree ornaments. Also, my son's Social Studies book this year has a chapter about the beginning of Christianity. It also talks about some other religions that began about the same time. It does not say one is right or wrong, just here are the basic facts of what that group believes. Then some discussion questions abou
  11. "Government sponsored education is unconditionally, fundamentally unconstitutional. But again, I want to reiterate, the government has no constitutional authority to educate anyone. " The Federal Government DOES NOT educate people, the state governments do. The state has the right (and I believe obligation) to provide education for its citizens. Article X of the Bill of Rights The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. The founding fathers DID believe in p
  12. What do you do about boys from one den going to 2 different troops? Two ceremonies or both troops? At my son's crossover, some of the boys had not decided yet what troop to join. So they crossed over, the SM that was there shook their hand, removed their blue shoulder loops, etc. The boys that joined his troop later got a troop t-shirt, something he would have normally handed to them at the crossover.
  13. In the Bible Zealots are a particular group of people who were so caught up in the rituals of religion they forgot the real meaning behind their religion. Merriam Webster says: zealot(capitalized) : a member of a fanatical sect arising in Judea during the first century A.D. and militantly opposing the Roman domination of Palestine Today zealot can be a good thing or a bad thing, depending how what is being talked about. I have to agree with littlebillie "Finally, finding MORE quotes - does that really matter? " Also, we can each read the same sentence and get a different meani
  14. I look at it more as a graduation. You don't have to go to college to get to participate in the high school graduation. If the boys have meet the requirements to leave Cubs and go to Boy Scouting (age or AOL), then they are part of the cross over. Our pack gave all the boys a Boy Scout handbook at crossover/graduation. They may not go to Boy Scouts this week but maybe, just maybe, they will look at that book and change their mind. Also, not all boys may be crossing over to the same troop. Would you make them have different ceremonies?
  15. It depends on your volunteer role as to what you are getting yourself into when you sign up. If someone is not at a meeting, they need to make sure another person represents their interests. Most of the time you will not have 100% of the committee there, if it is like most groups I've seen. I also agree that very little must be voted on. If I can't attend a meeting that I know an important issue will be discussed, I talk to another leader before the meeting and after the meeting.
  16. Talk to the parents and the boys. Have poster board and marker, have the boys come up with den rules. Lead them to the right ones. Maybe institute a 3 strikes youre out type of deal. The 3rd time you are called down, you leave the meeting. Tell the parents you must have their help. One of the hardest thing to learn is that as the leader you are the leader of the boys AND the parents. About the leader who spends a lot of time yelling at her own kid, I found it helped if one of the men in the pack just walked past my son and said come with me. They would get him busy with
  17. Ed, I grew up going to a private school that my parents helped found. My parents were always involved. Now, as a kid, I was embarrased to see my father show up at school but that only happened a few times. I told my sister I should tell these school people if they don't behave I'll get my family after them, hehehe. My son is also learning to stand up and ask questions. He is in an "elective" class called study skills. He already knows everything they are doing in this class. He is doing the work even though it is a repeat for him. After 6 weeks, he went on his own to the teacher and exp
  18. I do happen to know the school board member from our part of the county. Don't know him well, but enough that he has stopped and spoke and recognizes me. I also know a middle school assistant principal from a neighboring county. Wow, the contacts you make in Scouting and at church! I am trying to decipher the school district website to figure out what the chain of command is. Man, I should have made those Webelos learn that last year for the Scholar badge! The PTO is for fundraising and teacher appreciation. The overall attitude is what is really steaming me. The attitude of
  19. There are not being denied access to the bathroom, just have to go to the front office and use the one bathroom up there. It's could be a long walk if you gotta go NOW! And I know a lot of kids who wait until the last minute or just don't get "early warning signals".
  20. I finally talked to the principal of this school. The reason the bathrooms are locked is that some students take too much time wandering to and from the bathroom and miss "important class time". Also, I was told repeatedly "all middle schools around here do this, why is it a surprise?" and "ANYONE with experience with middle school knows about this". "Well I haven't heard from anyone else". Then she tried to tell me about keeping the kids safe -- I let her know that I'm a BSA leader and we all talk about how the schools don't come close to keeping kids safe! So, we are telling the
  21. What the Cub Scouts learn is different than what the Boy Scouts learn about LNT. This new award for the Cubs is for "frontcountry" not "back country". It doesn't talk about camping or campfires. A few thoughts I have are: Clean up trash in a park. Get trash containers installed in a park. Create posters or flyers to educate others.
  22. Laura, I have the same question! I thought of contacting the local/state LNT organization and asking them. Hopefully someone will know.
  23. All of the above has been very well said. Yes, the uniform is important. Was at a pack meeting last night, all those Wolves in their basically new uniforms looked so sharp. They still had lots of fun, even wiggling around on the floor -- just watch out for those falling neckerchief slides. I saw one leader very quietly explain to a young boy how to wear his temporary patches that had hang loops, as she moved the one from the left pocket to the right. Since one had just been received at that meeting, she told him to pick his favorite and only wear it next time. Wasn't a boy in her den
  24. Have you heard about this one? It can be earned by Cub Scouts (tigers, wolves, bears and webelos) and by Cub Scout leaders. My local council has flyers, your's may as well. You can also download the flyer at http://www.cubpack175.org/LeaveNoTrace.htm Here are the basics: Cub Scout Leave No Trace Front Country Guidelines 1. Plan ahead proper clothing, sunscreen, drinking water, use the buddy system. 2. Stick to the trails 3. Manage your pet keep your pet on a leash and clean up after it. 4. Leave what you find do not pick flowers or plants. Use established restrooms
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