Midnight

I for one, have had experiance with the who uniforming bit. Uniforming may equalize the girls, but lets's say you can't afford the unform to begin with? Or you already have a uniform, but it's 6 six years (and 5 tacky styles) behind the rest and can't afford to buy or make a new one? I am also a complainer on the subject - having to wear uniforms to headquarters and to DC. Both were unpleasant experiances in the uniforms simply becuase we felt out of place and uncomfortable becaue everyone in the troop felt as if they were unattractive. Yes, we understand the point of uniforms is not

I have in fact approached the old camp director on the subject. She wont comment one way or another. I mentioned everything that I mentioned on my first post, and she did not want to pin this issue or make it public for the councils sake. I can understand these views to a point, but things still must be done about this situation. I have been in contact with some of last years counselors who will be returning this summer. They know Im not trying to cause problems (Im not the most popular counselor at camp, but I do speak up when theres something wrong). Everyone is aware of the situat

I have done everything short of marching into the main council office. And in my current status here at college, I lack a car and lack the means to get to the office otherwise I would have been there a month ago. The way GSUSA runs things, If I were to go higher up, they would refer me or forward my material to the proper place where my worry/concern/complaint would be "heard" - the main council head (the one who won't respond to me as it is). So it would be just another circle. One thing I had considered, and it would cost me my job this summer, is to bring it up to the camper's

my leaders? If it's troop leaders you're referring to... Telling the leaders in this council will unfortunately help nothing. I don't know about other councils, but in the one's that I've worked for, Leaders have no say or representation where resident camp is concerned. Leaders take care of troops, Counselors take care of camps. (unlike BSA, the very existance of troops has little to no bearing on what goes on at Girl Scout camps - though I almost wish it did).(This message has been edited by Midnight)

Okay, I need some one elses opinion on this, because Im just not exactly sure of either policies or rules regarding this and I also would like to hear some wisdom from the elder people here. Im still young and still often slow. Ive been staffing camps since I was a Junior scout, and Im still not sure how I would fix this with knowing how to handle things like this. This summer Ill be returning as a camp counselor to a local Girl Scout resident camp. I have found out that the old director has left and in her stead, two of the most irresponsible college students that Ive known for years are

Address the topic of trainer training or go to the council personally? You are hitting the mark on this one - the trainers do need to be better trained. I guess I never followed the training and certification tree all the way to the root. As far as I know, the Lead Trainers for trainers who also organize the standards report to GSUSA, or at least that's what it says in my hand book. You would think that they would have some standards to follow set by the government or other outdoor organizations, wouldn't you? I'll have to do some asking around to see who the big fish ultimately repor

I agree for the most part with the above statements (and thank you so much for them ). My argument for training would be that nearly all the leaders who receive multiple trainings, outside the required overnight training, do remarkably well as troop leaders. "It was my understanding that Girl Scout leaders must take overnight camping training before taking girls camping. They also must have a First Aid trained person with them at such outings." - sctmom is correct. I ought to mention is that I have been to many of these overnight trainings as a junior trainer. Every single time,

I am writing a proposal to a few Girl Scout councils concerning a problem about how Girl Scout Leaders seem to lack basic camping skill training. And before anyone gets mad, let me say this, I am NOT saying that all Girl Scout leaders are incompetent, I'm just trying to get a handle on the opinions and the thoughts concerning this situation. My history of scouts is based on the fact that I am a Girl Scout resident camp counselor (hence the camp name, Midnight). I am also trained in Traversing, Climbing, first-aid, CPR, and all the usual stuff that GS Leaders are required to be trained in

I am writing a proposal to a few Girl Scout councils concerning a problem about how Girl Scout Leaders seem to lack basic camping skill training. And before anyone gets mad, let me say this, I am NOT saying that all Girl Scout leaders are incompetent, I'm just trying to get a handle on the opinions and the thoughts concerning this situation. My history of scouts is based on the fact that I am a Girl Scout resident camp counselor (hence the camp name, Midnight). I am also trained in Traversing, Climbing, first-aid, CPR, and all the usual stuff that GS Leaders are required to be trained i