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Here is does just that. It models, but lacks in explaining it I found. But our courses are all outdoors. Seperate camp sites, Patrol forming, elections, chain of command, dealing with the SPL, and not the TG. I was on site some of the time to give classes to the patrol I was with , but not mothering them. Some did. The Patrols do learn the Patrol Method, we make it a point to explain it. and there is some explanation in the guide. but not enough. On the other hand they do act as a Patrol the second after the B&G. Before being a Den.

There are many things going on this Day1. But dealing with the question, Patrols start with Aims and Methods of Scouting, Leadership positions, Patrol Elections, and Appointments, Start, Stop, Continue. There is a Game "The Patrol Method". But found that this game wasn't very productive in learning the Patrol Method. More should be done. Kudu, I find you to be lobbying to have the old course brought back, (BTW, I think that the older model should be brought back but also adding the new course)and doing all you can to show that the new course isn't what it should be. I just spent a year

Sorry Kudu, The topic I found in the WB Course book at about the same pages???

How about wax?

I am looking in my WB Course 2011 book and on pages 53 is the Patrol Leader Installation, Patrol Leader Oath, and the SM Minute. Pages 55-63 discuss the PLC, and the day's agenda. I know from my course that the Patrol Method is something discussed often, and amongst patrol members. also the SPL spoke about this during this PLC.

CHL, very good points, and each participant is different. I had one who was a 23 year old, Eagle Scout, and special need. He had a very good vision, and some interesting goals, I liked them but the SM didn't like them all. He wanted to push the guy a bit more, and even though the guy called home cried, and was upset, did write two more better goals, that pushed him more then a new cook book, etc.. in the end the Participant will get more from his ticket, work a bit harder, and give a bit more back to him Troop, District, and the council. BTW, the SM also has a Special needs child who is not on

I took WB21C last year, beaded this past Spring, Staffed WB this month. I think that everyone has something to learn in the course. Sure there are always those who think they know it all. OK, not a problem. I don't think anyone should be pushed into taking the course, and maybe not everyone is cut out for the course. It does get very emotional and many have a hard time with that. I saw it on this past course with one almost quiting, and several crying during the ticket process. I find you get out of something what you put into it. If your not ready to put into it, then let it be. I just did my

I just got back from Staffing WB last week. the course went very well. One thing that did come out negative was a few people's perspective of myself. But I don't know who had a problem with me, but they were the only two. I even got gifts from other Patrols?? Anyway, does bug me a little, because I don't know what the problem for them was. I prefer to find out these things and speck directly with the person(s) involved. As for the females on the course, I barely spoke to any of them??? Kudu, as for the Game of Life, I can^t speak about how it used to be,, I only took the new course. I do

I just went to Ordeal this past weekend and am happy to be an Arrowman now.. looking forward to some Cheerful Service, and fellowship, and next year to earn Brotherhood..

Sweet..

That's why we customized out Unit Numbers.. Has the date we started, and out City, and country..

The worry they will loose influence over the boy.. my troop has been like that for years. but not just with the boys, but also adults. Now we have forced the last bump in the road who was all about that out of the unit..

We let the boys decide on this. I see a SM not using the Boy Lead method... I can't see not allowing the troop to hold elections..

We don't have a bear problem here.. So your reason is totally understood.

I use a very large Hilleberg Tarp for the adult area. Works great. hang high, and keep the side low so to protect from the weather.

Sure it isn't water proof, but it does stop the rain. never got wet under the canopy, and it rained almost every day in the UK that week.

I've used the large canopy version as a central fire area. I took a Ray Mears course some years ago, and we used a large canopy chute. Keep all of the suspension lines attached, and cut two meter poles. We staked in the suspension lines at each pole, and using a long rope attached this to the appex and throwing the rope over a large OAK tree limb. Pulling the canopy up, and suspending it very high up. We had a large roaring fire underneath and plenty of space to sit. In fact we used cut logs to sit on. Worked great. I have one for my Troop in fact.

BP your right. But dealing with Venturing now makes me forget what the heck I was doing 25 years ago sometimes.. Post! Post! Post!.. now maybe I can remember.. man it's been a while.. thanks.. BTW. I found a Post for my Cousin back home.. trying to get him involved in Venturing, but no Crews back home. But a Post?

I ordered one for my son, and it arrived last week. Fits him perfect. The sleeves are a little long, but not a problem for him..

moose, I tried to fix it myself, but couldn't???? thanks..

Course Info. http://www.tac-bsa.org/Woo​dbadge.html

Course N2-802-11-1 will be held in Bavaria, Germany. Oberdachstetten. It's a great place for a course. I just though I'd post the course on here because firstly, I was told it's hard for some to get on course in some Councils in the States. And second, we are getting several people from the States coming over to take the course. It's a 6x1 course. So you get it done and over with in one week. Also the location is wonderful. We had a several people last year fly over for the course. and this year we have several flying in from several other countries outside of the EU. SB

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Anyone want to attend a week long course? Transatlantic Council (TAC) will host Woodbadge Course N2-802-11-1 Dates: From 14 to 19 August 2011, more information on how to register as a participant is on the TAC Website:http://www.tac-bsa.org/Woo​dbadge.html We already have several Scouters flying over from the States to participate on the course. ScoutBox Troop Guide

I still haven't gotten mine yet. But I wore my older Venturing shirt to camp Monday on a day visit, and it was bloody hot as well. So I don't think any shirt would be kool enough standing out in the sun or sitting in a wind less shade. Base! did you wear a t-shirt under the new shirt? Sometimes I find that any shirt with a collar will do as your did slidding to the rear of the shoulders.. I have the same problem with all of my shirts.