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I dug some more and all trails lead to and stop at the National Health and Safety Committee which encompasses Youth Protection under their Scouting Safely program (sometimes referred to as BSA's Commitment to Safety or Risk Management). The National Health and Safety Committee reports to the National Executive Council. I found only a couple past members. I was unable to find the current Chairperson, any other confirmed current members, or even the number members who I assume are a mix of professionals and volunteers. Each Local Council supposedly has their own Health and Safety Committee however YP is not listed as a principle responsibility (see link below). That responsibility, as we know, is the council SE. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/mission/doc/Healthandsafetycommitteechair.doc Note the above document has no date, file number, or authors listed. I could find the Health and Safety Committee Chairs of some local councils. IMHO, TCC's proposed Child Protection Committee will suffer the same lack of transparency and perhaps inaction if the BSA is in control to "consider" Child Protection Committee recommendations. An independent Child Protection Committee should be in control to which the BSA reports and complies. My $0.02,

The truth is out there.

Hmm, no mention of him or a Director of Youth Protection in 2019 BSA Form 990. https://paddockpost.com/2021/08/25/executive-compensation-at-boy-scouts-of-america/

Sorry about that. Guess I will have to dig further. From August, 2019 https://scoutingwire.org/how-the-boy-scouts-of-america-keeps-kids-safe-today/

Michael Johnson, Director Youth Protection Boy Scouts of America National Office

Yes, Harold Roe Bartle who was founder of Mic-O-Say, later a Scout Executive, and later still mayor of Kansas City. As the latter, he lured a NFL team to Kansas City if they would change their name to the Chiefs.

From Allegheny Highlands Council (AHC) which unanimously approved the sale of the Elk Lick Scout Reserve in Smethport, Pa. to fulfill their $900,000 required for the settlement. “We are not voting tonight on giving away a piece of history, we are voting on whether we want to keep Scouting alive in the Allegheny Highlands Council,” Michael Kelley, AHC board president, told members in a newsletter sent Friday. “If things stay on course, the lawsuit may be coming to an end in the next 90 days — it is not yet a done deal, but when it is, we will need to be prepared to put our part of the settlement into action. A key component of the plan is 100 percent participation by the 252 local Councils; if any one of these Councils decides not to participate, the deal is dead, and so is scouting.” There were nearly 70 claims against Allegheny Highlands Council. "...the contribution from each council was determined by the Local Council Committee in consultation with the Torts Claimant Committee...the formula used to determine each council’s contribution included council assets, number of claims filed within each council and statute of limitations in the state in which the claims were filed." https://www.observertoday.com/news/page-one/2021/10/boy-scouts-ok-sale-of-property/

April 6, 2021: https://nyrej.com/suffolk-county-council-boy-scouts-of-america-to-sell-council-headquarters-in-medford

Where is the DOJ/U.S. Trustee in this?

Huh? I have not seen that message before. I must have been working too fast. Sorry about that, it should be visible now.

Moving recent posts here regarding YPT changes in the TCC Proposal to its own topic. ~RS

So 1000 pages would be 10 pounds more or less ? Cost to send a 10lb package Parcel post, zones 1 thru 9, varies from $9.65 - $37.27, say $20 average. So just mailing (not paper, printing, packing) is $1.7M? Wait need a signature...your guess for mailing cost? Oh and lets do it during Christmas mailing. Maybe the BSA could insert ad flyers in the mailing like the RMV does? P.S. Back in the day, the largest printing we received in the mail was the Sears Wish Book (the Christmas catalog). I think the thickest it got was about 600 pages.

There seems to be much "unsettled" in this settlement plan. For example, "Who is the Settlement Trustee? The proposed trustee is Eric Green..." Proposed, at this juncture...? If the U.S. Trustee is also on our forum, please post and instead of my usual $0.02, I will provide 2 aspirin.

Could the TCC request another note on front of ballot? As this ballot is being mailed, an alternate plan from the TCC is being discussed by the Court. Vote No if you prefer to wait for the release of the TCC plan. or something to that effect.

and Arrogant in releasing this PR before tonight's TCC Town Hall, they are not worried about the TCC .

9/29/2021 Coalition statement: (no mention of fees) https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-coalition-of-abused-scouts-for-justice-comments-on-disclosure-statement-hearing-in-the-boy-scouts-of-america-chapter-11-bankruptcy-case-301388308.html

At this posting, the detailed link below is not behind a paywall. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-29/boy-scouts-preparing-to-seek-vote-on-1-6-billion-sex-abuse-fund

If only ...

Great photos. Glad there were no problems on trail or with photo upload.

@Wondering welcome to scouter.com Seems a timely response to the pandemic, though I have not seen new requirements, page 7 of link below, https://www.scouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Advancement-News_Sept-Oct-2021.pdf?fbclid=IwAR01PEyPEL9O4ubcgeKr5ElG8w5CxlrkXlx61xRMwoEZFHrT4D4KDLqIsIU

Seems problematic for the court, where corporations fade and re-incorporate under the same person but not necessarily at the same location. XYZ Medical...XYZ Legal...ABC Services...

Why not subpoena the person common to all?

... Mr. J. Maurice Hopkins and Mr. William Roane each joined the Ebenezer program as Cub Scouts in the mid-1950s. Together, they soared through the ranks. By the time the two reached high school, they were covered in merit badges — more than 50 between them — all earned under Mr. Ross, and far more than the 21 badges needed to qualify for a shot at the pinnacle of scouting. ... Yet the era, the segregated South of the 1950s and ’60s, held them back. As Eagle Scout candidates, the young men were required to clear one last critical hurdle — earning their life-saving swimming merit badges. Mr. Hopkins said he and Mr. Roane were prepared to advance, but the era was not. In the Frederick Douglass District, the district under which Black scouting troops operated, there were no swimming facilities sanctioned as approved testing sites. “We swam. We took it every summer at camp where we had to pass courses with the lifeguards,” Mr. Hopkins recalled. “All we needed was access.” The Boy Scouts’ Robert E. Lee Council, the governing body over all scout troops — Black and white — at the time, barred Black scouts from swimming in whites-only facilities. ... Shortly after Mr. Roane died, Mr. Hopkins went a step beyond remembering. He wrote a letter to the Capital District director of the renamed Boy Scouts Heart of Virginia Council pleading for posthumous Eagle Scout recognition to be presented to the Roane family. To his disappointment, the request was denied. The only formal reply was mailed to Mr. Roane’s widow, Mary. In a 2013 letter, a Heart of Virginia Council executive acknowledged that the men “came very close to earning and receiving the Eagle Scout Award,” and also, somewhat indirectly, that they’d likely also been victims of social injustice. ... Mr. Hopkins, 74, is the last living member of Richmond’s Black Eagle Scout “should-have-beens”. Source: http://richmondfreepress.com/news/2021/sep/23/denied-their-chance/

IMHO, BSA National will reach an inflection point where their legal expenses* exceed their victims' trust contribution before they run out of money. My $0.02, *legal expenses starting back in 2018 when BSA hired Sidley Austin