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I suspect there are a number of others here who remember it. All you have to do is be of the right, um, vintage, and involved in Scouting as a youth.

As you spend more time in this forum you will see that threads often go in "interesting" directions, sometimes 10-15 different directions simultaneously in a single thread. Quite often all it takes is one phrase that really has nothing to do with the actual topic, and we're off to the races. I did not know that. Can you give some examples, not necessarily names that we on the other side of the pond probably would not recognize, but the kinds of fields they are in or something else to give us an idea of what kind of people these are. Now see, right there is an example of wh

"Follow the Rugged Road", anyone?

I think this resolution leaves out some things that are important to a correct understanding of what the BSA's religion policy actually is, "on the ground." What I am about to say is "old hat" to most of those who read this forum, but unfortunately the vast majority of unit Scouters do not read this forum or any other Internet Scouting forum, to say nothing of Scouts and their non-leader parents, and perhaps more importantly, prospective Scouts and their non-leader parents. Examples: 1, It mentions "Duty to God" a lot, but it doesn't mention that the BSA does not define "Duty to God."

Well, I have never heard of Chris Pratt. I take it that I am in a minority in this regard, but the fact is that I am woefully (but mostly intentionally) deficient in my knowledge of celebrities in general, especially a lot of people who have become movie or tv stars in the last 30 or 40 years. I take it he has been in one or more of the recent "superhero" movies. The only one of those that I have ever seen (not counting older incarnations of Superman and Batman) is Iron Man, and I didn't see any of the sequels, if there were any. There have been a few times in the past few years when t

A lot of people on that list are deceased. And some are, perhaps, how shall I put this delicately, especially since I am not all that far behind them, perhaps a little TOO "experienced at life" to be a really effective public image for the BSA. On the other hand, how about "Bill Gates, Chief Scout"? I hear he's got some free time on his hands these days. But I can already hear the complaining from some quarters, and I am not actually serious. And I still don't think its a good idea in general, but going through the names is still interesting. I didn't know Jay Leno was a Scout.

I think being a leader does have a positive effect on most people. Most people can always improve their abilities to deal with other people, to assess situations and respond, to deal with difficult situations and difficult people, etc. Work and professional life provides some experience in doing so, but volunteering and working with kids provides a different kind of experience. Additionally, most of us here are not trained as teachers, so we learn how to pass along our knowledge and experience to young people only through practice in doing so. I also agree with what someone, I think it was

I don't think the answer (to what question, I am not sure) lies in recruiting someone to be the "face" of the BSA. For one thing, look at Bear Grylls and the UK. What I have learned in this thread is that a significant number of people seem to think he's a fraud. (I have never really paid attention to Bear Grylls, and the only episode of his show I have ever seen was the one with President Obama, which I doubt was representative of his shows as a whole.) So if he is viewed as a fraud by a significant number of people, how does that help the image of Scouts UK? I also doubt that the an

Oh. You're right. See, this is what happens when you only look at what shows up on a Google search results page and don't look at the actual page. I did go to Ten Mile River for summer camp one year when I was a Scout, actually it was one week of regular summer camp and one week of TLD (the 1970's predecessor of NYLT.)

I am just curious , you say in the thread title that you are from NY, and your council camp is Camp Alpine, but Alpine is the council camp for the Northern New Jersey Council. Does NNJC cross state lines? It turns out I was completely wrong, see below -- NJCS I know where Alpine is but have never been there. I am in Patriots Path Council.

Do you mean because of the admittance of girls into some packs? Does your son's pack have girls in it?

That's right. If you're going for a "look", you have to do it right or don't do it at all.

Here's hoping for the safety of all, as first priority, and then that the program and facilities are affected as little as possible.

Trail_on, welcome to the forum. I think we need a clearer time-line and some details of what happened here before people can give an opinion that is really relevant to the situation you are describing. If you are asking whether something that happened while a person was not a registered leader can be used as a reason for denying them registration (or re-registration) as a leader, the answer is yes (as others have said.)

Welcome Terasec!

I know. I was quoting another poster. The quoting in older posts no longer appears on the screen correctly. I was actually pointing out that Oscar de la Hoya was a boxer.

Ah. And the fact is that they did something similar at the time of at least one of the sexual-orientation decisions. But I think that while the timing probably is a “sop,” National really does believe in the “belief” requirement. And no, I am not in the market for any oceanfront property, whether in AZ or in NJ (but for different reasons, in NJ the main reason is named Sandy.)

I'm missing the connection.

Amazing what those 12-step programs can do.

Yeah, yeah. Which makes it even more misleading, since Obi Wan knew it didn't happen that way. (I am trying to remain in the fictional universe here. I know it's just a movie and that George Lucas simply changed his mind and made a weak attempt in Episode VI to reconcile it.) And that's basically what he (or actually his ghost) says in Episode VI, but the way he says it, it sounds like he knows he's full of baloney, as my mother would say. And Luke knows it too. As besides, his explanation (especially if you call it "pyschological murder") doesn't work because by the end of that

I especially enjoy the pharmaceutical ads in which they are trying to sell you an asthma medicine where one of the possible side effects is that you may have trouble breathing. Or a medicine to deal with digestive problems that may cause digestive problems. (They don't say it exactly that way, of course, but that is what it adds up to.) A related thing that amuses me is ads for both minor things (like a skin rash) and major things (like a medication for people who have already had a heart attack) both often have possible side effects that may be fatal. I would be a little more likely to ch

The problem is that you never know in advance which page that you skip (in the building code or the G2SS) is going to come back and bite you in the end - and in the wallet.

@RichardB, does the BSA realize that at some point, the cost and risk of volunteering ("cost" including time, and "risk" including statements such as appear above) is going to make people stop volunteering? I think that for some people, the point has already been reached. I also think that if all leaders actually read the Guide to Safe Scouting, a large number would decide that the point has been reached for them as well. Does the BSA recognize this as a problem and have a solution? Or is it just our problem?

Well, I do recall there were some Troubles...

They did. Of course, in the first film they said Darth Vader killed Luke's father, and in the next film Darth Vader was Luke's father, and no amount of verbal gymnastics by the ghost of Obi Wan in the third film can reconcile that. A certain point of view only goes so far. Not to mention the terrible thing the writers of the fourth movie (Episode I) did by turning the grand mystery of the Force into a matter of some bacteria-like things that you can measure with a blood test. By the beginning of the new trilogy, apparently the midichlorians never existed. Otherwise I have to believe t