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moosetracker

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  1. Our district is similar to Sentinel's.. A lot of times the OA has run the camporees, but half the time it is a troop (or 2 or 3 small troops working together).. OA just fills in whenever the district can't find a host Troop(s), so ends up doing it more times then any one troop. When our troop ran two, the scouts go to design everything from what the theme would be, what activities to what the design on the patch would be..The adults got the fun stuff of figuring out porta-potties etc..
  2. I understand the pooh - pooh of the troops that are already there or beyond.. But think it is a fine idea for a help guide for troops that are faultering.. Like JTE a great unit kind of looks at it and says "d*amed paperwork" but a struggling unit can use it for a guideline.. Son & I just did the JTE paperwork for the Pack we are resurrecting.. Barely made Bronze & was surprised we even did that, considering the majority of the questions asked didn't even register at the lowest denomination.. Some of it was our fault in that we are concentrating on keeping the pack going and p
  3. Also find out who is running each district event and see if the leaders would agree to use the forums in order for people to have pre-event conversations. Like if a camporee is coming up, some of the questions and discussions.. Sort of how this forum uses an area for Jamboree discussions. This might also be used for some trainings IOLS comes to mind, if they do it the way our district does it.. We have a pre-meeting and go over the cooking & backpacking then break them into groups to discuss menus and equipment. (Syllabus doesn't set it up that way, but many districts do it this way anyw
  4. I would leave it here.. Sure, it's for a Woodbadge ticket, so you might think to put it under the WB & Adult Training.. But, aside from being why you are asking the question, the subject matter of what you really want to discuss, is more appropriate to Open Discussions.. First start off promoting it at Roundtable.. Does your district do eblasts?.. Perhaps not something for it's own eblast, but mine does some with a whole variety of stuff.. Round Table is this Monday, Trainings coming up, Remember to take this survey, etc. etc.. This would be a good email to add in promoting the f
  5. True, Basement did turn this into a personal attack on himself.. So did others who have bent the rules.. Strange, I have gotten the question of why can't my young son weld an ax when teaching IOLS, but seriously I have never seen any of our BS troops in the entire district go to camporees with young'uns in tow, unless they are Webelos and it's allowable to invite Webelos to stay.. Yet with all the mommys and daddys stating they bring their youngsters, and why would anyone tell them they can't, and this should be perfectly fine.. It sounds like in other Councils, you can't tell a boy scout camp
  6. I have known scouts to make their own zip lines.. We have someone who goes to troops and teaches you to make your own monkey bridges.. We go canoeing by borrowing canoes, same with kayaking (someone knows a friend who knows a friend).. Long challenging hikes or climbing a mountain might cost you a trip to the footpaths.. Even on shoestring budgets you can find things ways to do more then plop camping. Perhaps your son has backpack all his life, still have to look at what G2SS ALLOWS his age group to do.. I have had parents insist their youngster can chop wood with the best of them, it is
  7. Wondered about the dirty turkey thing, but thought it was me having a girlie reaction, and thought that maybe the frying might burn all that off.. After all I have seen and eaten a ham that was smeared in mustard, then just thrown in the fire without a pot, the ham came out pretty dirty, but they cracked the mustard off, and we ate it.. And it was good.. Didn't realize a frozen bird would cause a grease fire though.. Is that because of the water from the ice?
  8. GeorgiaMom - Cub scouts should be more open to other siblings It is promoted as family oriented, and expects family participation. The training given to new Leaders even discusses at least for pack campouts planning a program for all siblings younger and older, not just the scouts. But even aside from pack camping, it is billed as family oriented.. Boy Scouts it is not.. But the Boy scouts do teach younger scouts.. The 10.5 to 11yo new recruits are who they train.. I also do not expect people to make other arrangements and go on troop outings.. I do expect them to stay home with their yo
  9. Man sounds like a troop ready to implode unless you get the trouble makers out.. Between manipulative scouts and over-demanding, over-protecting parents any of your good scouts and reasonable parents will be squeezed out, unless the troop makes a decision to remove the bad apples in order to save the good ones.
  10. Don't know about PTA groups.. Those were more pressured to stop their sponsorship over the fact atheists weren't allowed in, that hasn't changed. Other liberal groups who were are not sponsoring due to the gay issue would also tend hold out until the ban on Adult homosexuals was lifted also. I mean if there soul decision rests on equal treatment for homosexuals, then they are going to wait until homosexuals have equal treatment. But, seriously.. If your council fostered some sort of attitude that BSA was a "conservatives only" club.. Then it is now living with the damage that it created.
  11. Thanks, but No thanks... Don't get me wrong, loved them coming, in 5 to 10 years would love to have them back, but it was too much to fast.. We were suppose to host them one year, have a break for a year, then host them again.. The first year did the scouts in, because the council was not prepared for such a large turn-out.. Council abused their service, 5 hours service then half a day off to enjoy part of the show turned into 10 hours of service with no breaks and expecting them to put in the same time the next day.. Our troop worked half the 2nd day then walked out when their volunteer
  12. Thanks, but No thanks... Don't get me wrong, loved them coming, in 5 to 10 years would love to have them back, but it was too much to fast.. We were suppose to host them one year, have a break for a year, then host them again.. The first year did the scouts in, because the council was not prepared for such a large turn-out.. Council abused their service, 5 hours service then half a day off to enjoy part of the show turned into 10 hours of service with no breaks and expecting them to put in the same time the next day.. Our troop worked half the 2nd day then walked out when their volunteer
  13. If troop is run right, should be things above his physical ability or that if you go with an outfitter they would say "no" to due to age and that BSA also says "no" to due to age, white water rafting (try talking them into taking a 7 year old), rock climbing, long hikes, backpacking, long bike hikes, zip lines, canoe or kayaking trips etc. etc.. So yeah "Big boy" stuff.
  14. Fine then invite all the parents and all the siblings on the Troop outings.
  15. Thanks Scouter99, this is more definitive then the chart of who can do what at what age..
  16. No, there are two Threads with the same name one got moved from Open discussion to New to scouting, the other started out in the New to scouting area.. So if you open up "New to scouting" subject, you will find the other one, and your comments are all in there.. The other thread I expanded on it further.. Yours was probably because your troop was hard up, and you had no other option for your son if you went.. It would not be something I would see as the best solution. But, sometimes you bend the rules to keep a program going.. If the program isn't hard up, and the ASM is not doing it to hel
  17. Ahhhh... That sounds fun too.. I kind of had something like that in the back of my mind for a few years from now. Right now with only a Tiger den and a wolf den, something like that will wait a few years so that we can have more then two den tables.. But if they stay on task to make this a fun pack they will get there.. Next year perhaps we will do a bunch of minute to win it style games that have a Christmas theme, I found enough of those to have those for two years without repeating a single game.. But also Christmas caroling might be a different, fun idea, then coming back for hot choc
  18. Last year I suspected people gone, but had no official word, and they didn't answer emails or phone calls.. But it was due to a blowup, that happened after they paid for the years recharter.. I have money, you aren't going to tell me you are not going to recharter, so that you can get your money back.. Well they were put on the charter. I kindof thought it would be unethical for the pack to keep the money and use it for other purposes then intended, and the people were given opportunity to verbally tell us they wanted a refund. Their problem, I didn't loose sleep over it.. I even was nice enou
  19. Not only that, although troops are different.. I know in my sons' troop, the older boys had some difficulty with the younger incoming scouts.. Sometimes the little guys were fine, and cool.. But, if they start whining, or being too goofy or are reluctant about doing work, or make an extra mess and then walk off for someone else to fix.. That's for 10.5 to 11 year olds.. They just wouldn't be more tolerant for a kid of 6 or 7 who shouldn't even be on the trip. Then also my sons' troop for a long time had great SM's but the last year (and for several years after) they had a SM who was there
  20. It's a nice plan Eagle92, but you have to remember that our Adult Leaders are not educational professionals.. They kind of fall into the schoolwork stuff because they don't know how to work with youth, so they go back to what they know from their school years.. What you talk about would take a very creative educational professional to pull off, someone who knows the outdoors well and creative teaching methods for Personal Management and can marry the two.. Me personally I stay away from Personal Management, not my bailiwick,, Some scout somehow got the impression I did Personal Management a
  21. Seems like traffic cones would resist being knocked over.. Do you deep fry the bird. I never cooked it frozen even for deep fry, how long does it take to cook?
  22. Well they do as for not only your ID# but also your council.. Perhaps that's it, not sure.. I am more concerned about the mess of moving all the scouts advancements and all the Adult leaders Trainings.. What a mess.. But seriously our Council numbers are only two groups.. Like they were assigned a number grouping, used it up, and have now been working the new number groupings.. You either are in 61##### and then they stop that number grouping abruptly and then only have people within the group numbers of 128######
  23. And... AGAIN where does the OP have any back story like the one you just gave Jblake.. Again.. he just states he want to take his wolf son on troop events for the "fun" of it..
  24. jblake my comment was mostly to Basement, who stated my argument did not hold water, because he took his son in a situation where the troop was dieing out and it was him and his son, or the event didn't happen.. Which I am stating my argument isn't against him because he meets my exclusion of the troop better be in dire need to agree to this.. But, that holds with your statement also.. You both are making up these "maybe" statements of talking yourself into a scenario that it is perfectly acceptable due to the troop is in dire need, if he doesn't go the trip is canceled and the troop folds..
  25. Why not just invite the whole pack out on your troop outings.. There are rules against anyone except Webelos staying overnight on a troop outing, and then only with a parent present.. But, our troops can ask the younger scouts to the daytime part of an event, but they can not spend the night.. I guess they could if the Pack calls it a Pack campout, and we just happen to be camping next to the troop.. But it has to be a full authorized Pack campout, not just the wolf den, or a lone wolf scout, whose parent is trying to use their position to sneak him into something that he is not of an age to
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