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  1. Because people don't follow their training. They think that YPT is overkill, or they think it isn't worth the trouble, or they think it can't happen to them, or there is a malicious actor in place. If training is followed, then most cases of abuse are physically impossible. I have to ask though, why anyone would think the BSA is liable for those 5 cases. The perpetrator should be charged and jailed if convicted (if they are found innocent then the case didn't really count, did it). The unit and CO should responsible for any negligence in following YPT. National should only be liable i
  2. I miss understood the letter. I still have a really hard time with "creditable claims." I know that this a sensitive issue, but I assume that while the BSA thought the claims were creditable, the legal system did not? Why aren't we seeing a new wave of personal accusations against the actual perpetrators? It seems clear, unlike the movements against politicians and celebrities, there is no money to be had from bringing up the name of an old scoutmaster.
  3. Thanks, it helps to have context. Seems like the problem was less about it being a bad method and more about it being the one prescribed method. I have no problem with the BSA focusing on a singular method of skill teaching since you could spend a masters degree worth of time discussing all of the methods and when they are most useful. I do a lot of skill teaching at work and teaching others to teach skills. I essentially teach the EDGE method because it is more easily applicable than "see one, do one, teach one." That is what we were taught in school but there is often no one else to t
  4. I have no nice words for this conversation anymore. This seems to be more and more about people looking for monetary compensation for a thing that happened a long time ago. The story that opens this article is from 58 years ago and as far as I can tell was never reported to National. That scoutmaster may very well be dead now and organizational policies have drastically changed. Why would this man even be entitled to restitution from the BSA. Why is he not suing the church which was responsible for appointing the scoutmaster? Why does no one ever explain that the Chartered Organizations a
  5. Holy Zombie Thread, Batman! I love having a full size (square) necker. Anything else and I would rather go without. I cant find the original parent thread, anyone want to summarize why EDGE was so bad?
  6. Why is cutting the canton part of the minimum? As far as I am aware there is no prescribed method other than the fire part. We never did it that way but were taught to fold the flag on to the fire whole.
  7. This is one reason it is so important for Units to have good Unit Commissioners and those UC's to have a good relationship with the SM, the CC, and the COR (and ideally the IH as well). Assisting with difficult leadership changes is one of the things the BSA places on the commissioner service. This could have been resolved quickly over a cup of coffee. Either the SM realizes he is the one who needs to change or its "thank you for your service." This shouldn't be a slow process because scout turnover happens too quickly.
  8. I don't want to comment on any particular post because I don't know that I am responding to a particular thing. I think we all should be careful that we are not gatekeeping and drawing lines we don't have the authority to draw. Ms. Ireland is a unique case for sure, but if a female scout moved to the US tomorrow and was granted an equivalency of Life rank would we have the same argument? Would it cause the same stress? When a male scout does the same thing, would it bother us? Who has the authority to grant "equivalency" for rank done in other organizations? Did that group grant the r
  9. Are we? I thought this was about crossover? Whenever I think about crossover, I think about Cub Scouts moving into the next program (crossing over to the older program). I do think most units move scouts from wolf to bear to Webelos scouts by grade, but moving on to Boy Scouts (not Scouts BSA) has often been done by whenever the boy both completed his AoL and met the requirements for joining (age based) instead of waiting until a grade transition.
  10. Another thought that makes this entirely likely. You probably know more about this girl than we do, but as designed Scouts BSA girls troops are an independent entity capable of designing their own program. It is easy to see a new troop designing their early program to focus on helping those girls complete those requirements as they don't have any scouts of higher ranks. It won't surprise me if this troops turns out several early First Class scouts because their program is focused on that.
  11. Other than YP, which could be satisfied by having two adults in the same building as the meeting but doing something else, what is the goal of having an ASM at the meeting?
  12. Sounds like you have found a thing that National may have forgotten about. Should have been addressed before as I really thought that Venturers have been able to do the BSA Lifeguarding course. I would say that until told otherwise, it goes where you feel it would most logically go.
  13. Back when I was a Unit Commissioner, I would do inspections during my meeting visits. I always brought small prizes. I would give out stuff for being "fully uniformed," for most number of uniform shirts in a patrol, etc. The boys started to enjoy the competition and I started to have to think of higher bars for prizes. It also gave me a chance to see if there were consistent missing things that might be the result of a families inability to afford. At the time I had a pretty good line on both used pieces and people who had money but not time to give. We were able to get boys lots of "re
  14. I stopped buying Girl Scout cookies several years ago. I have talked with a couple of friends who are Mom's and asked if there was a way I could help support their scouts without contributing to the national organization. A couple times they have called me on it and I have happily helped. It feels a lot better than just buying cookies especially since Thin Mints/Grasshoppers are the only ones I really like anyway.
  15. I am encouraged by the most recent response by National. I do worry a little about where they seem to be going with the Volunteer Screening Database. While it is certainly withing the rights of the BSA to exclude volunteers who have even been accused of abuse, I am not sure how I feel about these entries being part of a database shared between organizations. It certainly seems to violate the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" and seems like it would come too close to libel. A mildly related example is the Esteem database used by retailers to report employees who have been fired
  16. Except there is a document from GSUSA national that says prohibits joint activities just not in so many words. This document has already been posted and appropriately quoted but here is is again. https://my.girlscouts.org/content/dam/wcf-images/pdf-forms/Volunteer-Essentials.pdf On page 38 states "we must endure that we take care that the activities in which girls participate are exclusive to the Girl Scout program, are safe and girl led, and are conducted under the appropriate supervision of Girl Scouts." That sounds like a rule against joint activities as they would not be "exclus
  17. We do spend time determining insurance status if you don't have any available. Of course this presumes that you are either actually uninsured or unable to provide your SS# and Insurance carrier (this is enough if you don't have your card). While this does occasionally delay admission to inpatient areas it does not delay the provision of emergency treatment. We don't put you in a "slow-line" until we figure out if you actually have insurance or not.
  18. In the United States it is illegal for an emergency department to triage patients by ability to pay. Many Electronic Medical Records don't expose insurance information to ER personnel to prevent even subconscious decisions based on insurance status. The only time we (I work in an ER) make decisions for patients based on insurance is when we are concerned that we might better serve a patient by taking a specific action. For example, I might check to see what medications your insurance will pay for (or what you can afford out of pocket) after we have decided to discharge you. Or admissi
  19. I'm sorry, "the slow-line"? Can you tell me what you mean by that?
  20. I agree with you, but the forms don't just ask that. "A Scout is trustworthy" There are quite a few things on the form that aren't necessary for first aid treatment but would be useful for a ER physician. It might be prudent for there to be another set of information for the troop separate from the part B form. There isn't and I understand why some of these things bother people. I also understand that people who don't have things they care about keeping between them and their doctor might have a hard time understanding why people were so bothered.
  21. Health forms aren't a permission slip. They aren't just about if you are "fit" or not. Part A is a liability waver. Part B is a voluntary history that provides your unit with the information needed if emergency First Aid is needed or if you are taken to a medical facility and not able to provide a history yourself. I maintain that this could probably be accomplished with a sealed envelope and a "is there anything on here that we need to know about?" That makes things on the scouter/parent not on the unit. Part C is the "Fit or not" part. These are for long term camping a
  22. He said "activity" but I think it's clear he meant "organized activities." If it is a public school then they have to be careful about supporting organizations. Essentially what applies to one has to apply to all. The food bank might be an interesting exception depending on what was recommended. You don't "join" a food bank so it isn't quite the same thing. If you are going to have your son approach this then have him collect all the recommendations to find the "line"
  23. That's easy. Because bedridden medical patient's aren't the same as studying the effect of staying in bed for otherwise healthy individuals. Medical patients would introduce too many confounding variables. I'm not sure what they research was designed to evaluate, but I can guarantee that sick people aren't good analogues for healthy people.
  24. Maybe don't be too hard on NASA. https://www.popsci.com/women-spacewalk-spacesuit-nasa Essentially there are two sizes of spacesuit, medium and large. One each was ready for a space walk. On another spacewalk, one astronaut found that she fit better in the medium. So the options are to change who is going to walk, or to prep the other medium suit. Prepping the other medium suit takes time (a lot), might have delayed the walk, and might have not worked at all. So, NASA decided that it made more sense to change who was going to make this walk, and have the the other astronaut tak
  25. I have one of these https://www.mydogtag.com/military/army-medical-warning-tag hanging with a normal dogtag/silencer My name, DOB, emergency contact is on the normal with more medical information on the medical tag. The red medical tag has more space (19char/line, 6 lines) than a normal sized dog tag. As far as I am concerned it has all the medical information needed in an emergency situation. I wear them when ever I am in the wild. My suggestion is to summarize the important info on one or two tags. The point about my epilepsy is that it doesn't change appropriate seizure first
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