Pack "soft merger" logistics question - Registered den leaders requirements

[FireStone]

My pack is taking in another local pack that has had dwindling membership. We're not merging officially, yet, but the other pack will attend all of our den and pack meetings and activities. Packs will remain separate in registration, finance, charter, rosters, etc. Just functionally work together. 

What is the requirement for number of registered den leaders needed for both packs if we're working together? Do both packs still need the requisite 2 registered DLs per den? So if our Bears den has the other pack's Bears den at our den meetings, does the other pack's Bears den still need registered leaders? 

Edited Wednesday at 04:35 PM by FireStone

[Tron]

You're going to need a handful of things. First you will need council permission to hold joint unit events (joint den meetings count as joint event). Both units will need to provide 2 registered leaders per event. 

So assuming you are holding joint den meetings you will need 4 leaders, 2 from each unit. 

[fred8033]

I am a rule follower.  It's my personality.  At some point, it gets ridiculous.  But, Tron sounds right.   

Consider a full merger instead.  Sitting on the fence about merging causes it's own trouble (coordination, emotions, cost of who pays for what, etc).  A full merger is easier and better in the long run.   And, you don't have to ask permission.  It's just a member transfer from Pack X to Pack Y.   As for assets (tents, cash, etc), Pack X donates their assets to Pack Y.  No one will ask and it works smoother that way. 

Edited Thursday at 04:00 PM by fred8033

[Tron]

4 hours ago, fred8033 said:

I am a rule follower.  It's my personality.  At some point, it gets ridiculous.  But, Tron sounds right.   

Consider a full merger instead.  Sitting on the fence about merging causes it's own trouble (coordination, emotions, cost of who pays for what, etc).  A full merger is easier and better in the long run.   And, you don't have to ask permission.  It's just a member transfer from Pack X to Pack Y.   As for assets (tents, cash, etc), Pack X donates their assets to Pack Y.  No one will ask and it works smoother that way. 

If you go this route, full merger, there is a form you need to get your charter org to sign to allow you to give your items to the other pack/charter org. 

[SiouxRanger]

On 7/30/2025 at 1:27 PM, Tron said:

First you will need council permission to hold joint unit events

Where does one find this rule?

Thanks.

[NealOnWheels]

On 7/31/2025 at 10:00 PM, SiouxRanger said:

Where does one find this rule?

Thanks.

The only reference I can find is...

https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss03/#:~:text=Local council approval is needed,have approval from their council.

[SiouxRanger]

Thanks-looks like the right rule to me.