MattR 2690 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 There were 2 threads with the same title that i merged together. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ChanL 3 Posted June 20, 2023 Author Share Posted June 20, 2023 It is this Org chart that confused us. Org chart for small troop It puts "Troop Guide" on the same level as SPL and above ASPL. Link to post Share on other sites
DuctTape 1235 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Organizatiinal chart is not a hierarchy chart of levels. It is a communication chart. Link to post Share on other sites
DannyG 107 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 It is your unit, you can decide what's best for the troop. There is much we don't know about the scouts and the situation to decide which one is best for the position. Your scouts should decide. I would leave it up to PLC to make the decision. As it is written, a responsibility of ASPL is to lead when SPL is unable to do so. A Troop Guide assists and counsels new leaders. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Double Eagle 128 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 You (the SM) can easily appoint Scout A as a JASM provided he is 16yrs old. Not for just camp, but for his regular position. Scout A is not new to scouting or camp so supporting the camp SPL should be easy. A great time (one week) to see how the ASPL can do in the SPL position. If he won't or cannot, may be a good time for some reflection and SM conference. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2798 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Double Eagle said: You (the SM) can easily appoint Scout A as a JASM provided he is 16yrs old. Not for just camp, but for his regular position. Scout A is not new to scouting or camp so supporting the camp SPL should be easy. A great time (one week) to see how the ASPL can do in the SPL position. If he won't or cannot, may be a good time for some reflection and SM conference. And, pay his camp fees. We pay our SPL's camp fees because they work hard and are exhausted by the end. Barry Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle94-A1 2747 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Look at both the lines on the chart, and job descriptions. Troop Guide reports to the SPL like the ASPL. However, the ASPL assumes the SPL's duties when the SPL is not around according to the job description. So Scout B is in Charge An Aside, the chart is scewed up as the Older Scout patrol Leader doesn't report to the SPL, as they should. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tron 101 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Scout B, the ASPL is the functional SPL in the absence of the SPL at all unit functions under the auspices of the BSA. This is all handled in the Troop Leader Guides, the SPL handbook, the PL handbook, etc ... Your question makes me think that there is something else going on here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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