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How in the world can you say mom and dad helped too much? If the parents help the scout learn requirements great. The blame should be placed on the scoutmaster/troop/BOR either the scout has learned/done the requirements or he hasnt, does it really matter who helped him learn the requirements? Mom/dad or the troop, as long as he has done/learned the requirements. They are 3 checkpoints that should stop this from happening, The 1st sign off of the requirement, the Scoutmaster conference, and than the BOR. How can you say that mom and dad helped too much, with the above 3 checkpoints? I so

What I find most amusing about this is that BSA was started on a lawsuit on who could use the BSA name.

Sue the Troop! Sue the Council! Sue the leaders! Create havoc. Make it hard for the troop to survive! Come on. YEAH COME ON! WHO WOULD THIS MAKE HARD FOR THE TROOP TO SURVIVE? HOW WOULD THIS CREATE HAVOC. This whole thing could have been avoided by just having a line saying if a scout leaves the troop all money reverts to the troop. Of course this is hindsight at this point. But it did not, so does the scout get his money or not? IS IT SO WRONG TO SHOW THE SCOUT THE LEAGAL WAY TO RESLOVE THIS? I DO NOT THINK SO!

Does your troop use the monthly program guide and follow the monthly program? Does your troop use the monthly program meeting plan sheet either from the Scoutmaster handbook or from the Scouting magazine? Does your troop make a written agenda for campouts? If you do the above does the PLC decide the program and write up or does a leader write it up? The reason I am asking is that I feel my sons troop is a little loose at planning. I feel that if we help the scouts learn to plan meetings, campouts, and COH better and in writing it will only make for a better troop and stronger leaders.

My 2 cents worth, there is no RULES on page 12 or 13 of the handbook about wearing uniforms, only suggestion that it will make you a better scout. From Page 152 of the Scoutmaster Handbook, 2000 edition. A Boy Scout is not required to have a uniform in order to be a Boy Scout. The next sentence is: However, troop leaders should set a good example by wearing the uniform. Mike, I do not think you can require a scout to wear a uniform, but I believe that you can use it to stop advancement of the scout for not showing leadership especially if he is an older scout and not sett

Here is the link http://www.threefirescouncil.org/ This is a council's slim downed version of the BSA's 50 page policy on websites.

Here is a readers digest version of the 50 page policy for web sites from BSA. Unit, District, and Council Webpage Standards & Guidelines Districts can develop their own Internet website as long they observe the rules and regulations of the BSA. Do have a unit webpage/site. It is a great way to advertise and keep in touch with the unit membership. Dont advertise anything in the BSA name. Dont try to create secure areas on your website. This would be password-protected areas with Personal or private information. Even if you believe you have secured the data for your website us

What do you do, when you setup a program which to obtain Firt Class in the First Year, with the troop guides training the scouts at the troop meetings and the campouts that will cover the requirments and some of the scouts (60%) are not there because of other commeiments. Do you set up the program so the requiements are taught 2 to 3 times per year? This does not seem doable, not enough troop guides or time.

i wish i was taught that there is no need to raise your voice to a Scout. i wish that i was taught much much more about the boy run troop. They tried to show it but it did not come across as it should have. And i hope i never have to watch the guide to safe scouting video one more time (seen the same one 4 times)

Okay deep cleansing breath. Think happy thoughts. Now, bang head against wall, repeatedly.

NO! Becuase their is no one here that represents the BSA! Professional Paid Scouter, versus us "just" Scouters! Most people here do not even know what the policies are, only what they want them to be!

This year Rota-Kiwan Kalamazoo, MI Last year Camp Phillips in Wisc. Great Camp The committe wanted to try something new this year

Patrol Leader/Assistant Patrol Leader or a Patrol Member selected will track attendance and fill in the date of the meeting or campout Scout has attendant. Patrol Leader/Assistant Patrol Leader or selected Patrol Member will notify SPL when beads are to be upgraded. The PL/APL or person selected to track attendance will hand out White beads to the Scouts during the meeting, This will happen during the uniform inspections done by the Patrol. Meeting beads: To be on the right side of the belt totem White Bead for each meeting attendant, after 8 meetings trade in the 8 white beads for

eman when you say "We tend to expect them to do things with little or no info and then we don't understand why they failed. Woodbadge let's you look at the situation from the other side" How did Woodbadge show you this? By example?

Yes, bob and mike are blokes, and nice blokes also!

IMHO rooster likes to debate!

Weekender I just sat with a new patrol and a Troop Guide last night. They went through the joining requirements, only 2 of the boys where able to get a scoutmaster conference. Do not forget that one of the requirements must be done with a parent, reviewing the pamphlet in the front of the book. Not all may be able to get their scouter badge the 1st or 2nd night. Your way sounds way much cooler! Try to spend some time answering questions, the new scouts had a many good questions. And review some of the troop policies, some that I thought where important, you cannot carry a knife unt

Another scout myth shot down!? Are you absolutely sure about this Bob? I have heard this so many times, even at scoutmaster fundamentals! I could not find any reference to this in the Scoutmaster Handbook.

Do NOT do it! If you want to assign an ASM (the dads) to the new patrols, for the 1st year to get them started out, follow the New Patrol Method from the Scoutmaster Handbook. (The new patrol method was started in 1985) Preferably I would not have a dad be the ASM for his sons patrol if it could be helped. Make sure they (the new ASMs) at least read the scoutmaster handbook and understand the patrol method, preferably read the handbook and get training. The ASM should be there to get the troop guides to help the new scouts.

sctmom you wont be showing those pictures to girlfriends in another couple of years, will you? or just for blackmail? Great story! Your son is leading by example!

BSA now has a policy for scout web pages/sites. I have not seen it yet. But for a heads up, I have heard that it says a BSA website should not have ads on them, meaning the free web hosting sites are really not allowed! Only put the 1st name of a scout or leader or the webpage, not last names. I will share more when I learn more.

Our troop has a meeting every month, but the meeting after the campout is the SPL meeting. I do not agree that a scout should have to attend 2 meeting before a campout to attend the campout, many scouts have many other things going on band, ballet, dance, music lessons, etc. But our troop has an unused policy that the scout must be at the meeting before the campout to help with campout prep. Calendar is here. http://www.t46.ontheweb.com/

a. Trainers are coming Monday night to our troop meeting place for committee training. b. I have only seen the training been offered twice for this year so far. d. Yes, 3 ASM from our troop. e.Not this year, we had one ASM go last year. f. time of the year, for me it would fall, my least busy time.

Our troop has just started something new for our troop. A Quartermaster has been elected for each patrol, and he will be responsible for the patrol chuck box and troop gear that the patrol uses, previously it was the troop Quartermaster/SPL who was responsible for all of the troop gear. The Troop Quartermaster is still overall responsible for the gear. We have not had a campout since this has been installed, This months campout was cancelled! Rain, Thunder, Lighting, A lot more rain, ice, snow, and 50-mile an hour wind gusts! How come all of the tents are in good condition until a leader

Well, since I kind of started this topic! I guess I need to respond! I cannot come up with anytime a SPL should be appointed. And yes I have been thinking about it! In my short time as a ASM, I have seen the patrol method not followed by new leaders and old er I mean experienced leaders. Training helps but it is not the whole answer, reading the Scoutmaster handbook for me helped along with this forum. I have learned at great amount from this forum, but it has also made me get out the scoutmaster handbook to see if what is being stated is the BSA way. (Bob White and I disagree if the