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I work with kids from many different troops as well as adults. Name tags are a blessing. When an adult or youth take a training class, what is the first thing the staff does, issue name tags. What do football teams do? Put names on jerseys or in my day, on piece of masking tape on the helmets. Get a bunch of like age boys all in the same uniform and you want me to pick them out easily? I have identical twins in our troop! Name tags are greatly appreciated. I think we are a little too paranoid on this subject.

Franklin was right, the eagle is a lowly scavenger. Long live the Bears.

A boy may be registered in a troop as a boy scout. He may also belong to a Venture Patrol within that Boy Scout troop. He may also join a Venturing Crew outside of his troop. The term "Venture Crew" is no longer valid. The correct term is Venture Patrol. The term "Venture Scout" is also no longer valid. Members of a Venture Patrol are Boy Scouts. Members of a Venturing Crew are Venturers. Don't feel bad. Most people screw up these terms.

It is my understanding that the Wood Badge for the 21st Century attempts to teach leadership skills, common skills necessary for committee members, den leaders, scoutmasters, etc. The skills many wish the course would teach sound like a litany of outdoor skills, not very relevant for a commissioner, committee chair, etc. What some of you would like, in my opinion, is a course like SM/SA Outdoor Fundamentals II; a "graduate" or second course to the last troika of the new SLF training . {This course doesn't exist to my knowledge. Just a suggestion on my part.}

C-34-02; C-23-02, etc. The "C" I assume is for the Central Region, the "02" obviously is for the year (2002). I have heard different answers for the "34", "23", etc. Do these numbers designate specific Councils within the regions?

I agree somewhat with yaworski & maai. It is a bullying incident and not sexual harassment. Around my neighborhood, the boys (10 - 13) call the other boys "gay" as an insult. I try my best to stop it. The reason the boys use the term is that it gets a rise out of the other boys, it sounds "mature" to them, etc. If calling them "green" got the same response, that is what they would use. Our society in general is phobic about all things sexual. The boys pick up on this and use it for bullying purposes. Think about this; one boy makes fun of another boy's penis. Is that sexual ha

"agree to disagree agreeably" - I like that. I've noticed that Scouting often brings out the best in people and computer forums, and the anonymity it gives, tends to bring out the worst.

Again, there are benefits to holding quasi-joint meetings (same time, same place, some overlap) as tdyer56 and others have stated. However, a problem exists for someone like me who is active in both Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. I can't attend both meetings simultaneously. Why not have the meetings run with a slight overlap (end of Cub rountable, beginning of Boy Scout roundtable) but consecutively. I think that would benefit all.

OGE, I'm a bear too, (Da Bears, Da Best) and had fun on my first three days of WB. Got ideas for my ticket but a longs ways off from filling it out. Stay tuned.

Bob White, It sounds like in your post that you believe that Oscar de la Renta (or his company) was paid by the BSA for his services. I have no idea if this is true or not. Do you?

Just last year my council began having joint roundtables for boy scouts and cub scouts (same room). However, they have traditionally been on the same evening and location (school). They overlap very briefly (5 minutes or less) and then breakout to different areas. My problem is that I would like to attend both!

I'm not sure if the complete uniform was designed by de la Renta but I believe that the neckerchief (scarves or scarfs?) for female cub leaders are designed by de la Renta. I has his signature on it!

Sorry, this should be in the "uniform" thread. I hit the post new topic instead of the reply button. Sorry.

I'm not sure if the complete uniform was designed by de la Renta but I believe that the neckerchief (scarves or scarfs?) for female cub leaders are designed by de la Renta. It has his signature on it!

Rooster, it is not my intent to debate the merits of creationism or evolution. However, statements like "No one denies that Jesus existed." prove nothing on their own. No one doubts that Muhammad (or David Koresh or Jim Jones for that matter) existed either. That does not make the religions that they preached "correct." Also your comment about "repeated designs in nature that screams there must be a creator" can be just as easily used to "scream" that evolution is at work. Why do the bone structures of some whales closely resemble that of a cow? Is it because of evolution or because

My science book (at college I believe, mid '70s) mentioned God/creation as well as evolution. I thought it handled the topic very well. It stated that there were two dominant beliefs for the creation of life/man. Some believed that a higher being (God) created man, animals, etc. and other's believed in evolution/Darwinism. This book will concentrate on the latter. I'm obviously paraphrasing the book's contents but I thought it was interesting that the science book mentioned creationism (is that a word?).

de la Renta is known more for his work with women's wear and not traditional mens shirts. Although he works primarily with female fashion, he has many philanthropic activities which may interest him in helping scouting. Was your posting an attempt, and I emphasize an attempt, at humor?

Thanks for the response guys. Yes, I've had fast track and basic leader training for both positions. My concern was that I determine my primary position and not the trainers. From your responses, it sounds like I do have the freedom to choose my primary position, good! OGE, I'm in the Clinton Valley Council (Southeast MI) and will take the training at D-Bar-A scout camp (Metamora).

What determines ones primary position as a Scouter? I am currently a registered Webelos Den leader and an Assistant Scoutmaster. From a registration point of view, my primary registration ($7.00 and soon to be $10.00 fee) position is Webelos Den Leader and my secondary ($1.00 fee?) is SA. However, because my den will cross over in five months after my Woodbadge course and I plan on remaining as a SA for at least a few more years, I would like my Woodbadge training to be oriented around my SA activities where appropriate. I stated such in my application. Does anyone foresee a problem with

This reminds me of teachers/schools allowing parents in the rooms during school. Every parent should have a right to watch their children, without interfering, regardless of it is scouts, school, sports practice etc. That is why they are called guardians.

The only problem I've seen is not the little sisters but the big sisters! We had a few families show up, invited, the evening before the last day of summer camp to see their first year son (11 yr olds). One of the boys had an older (15 - 16?) sister and boy did it disrupt our senior patrol. She and the boys were very well behaved but the boys followed her around like lost puppies! I was humerous to see and I guess a wake up call to me, a parent of a soon to be 12 yr old scout, 10 yr Webelos scout and 7 yr old girl scout. Usually, within our 12 campouts per year we designate two or thr

The "God is a concept" reference reminded me of a lyric by John Winston Lennon, "God is a concept, by which we measure our pain." I don't really want to get into the "God is in control of everything." or as I believe John Calvin phrased it, predestination, vs. human free will debate. I came into being because of actions by my mother and father more years ago than I care to remember.

Our troop allows personal electronics (gameboys, CD players, etc.) but only in their tent or in the car. I like the idea that if you are going to ban electronics from the boys, no adults should have their palm pilots, pagers, cell phones, lap tops, etc. As with guns, the electronics are not inherently bad (okay, maybe Gameboys are) but the boys (and many adults) need to learn when it is appropriate to use them. We took a train ride to Chicago (from Detroit) in February and many of the boys took CD players on the long train ride. When a leader wanted to talk to the boys (we

My heart goes out to the Amundsen family. One thing I've noticed is that the boys feel safe inside their tents as opposed to out in the open. Even though a tent really provides no structural safety, the appearance of four walls around them conveys security. They may provide shelter from the rain but little else. I know hindsight is always 20/20, but when high winds appoach, head for low ground, not your tent! A similar incident happened when my older son crossed over from Wolf to Bear at our Pack's crossover. About half the pack decided to spend the night at a local county park. I

This debate reminds me of the JFK election. Some have a difficult time separating not only church and state but God and church (or The Church). JFK, the USA's first Roman Catholic president, was askd if he would answer first to the Pope in Rome (Vatican) or to the country. Of course to get elected, JFK said his first priority would be the country.