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  1. I'll second that! Some of the programs don't consider as Dan said" the real world" when it comes to traning the Scoutmaster.
  2. Hello Gray Eagle, Very nicely put; I hope you don't mind if I use it as one of my Scoutmaster minutes?
  3. Ok here I go. I hope I can get it right this time. At my wood badge, from what I remember, when we went to the patrol leader meeting the SPL ran the meeting. He gave us ideas;It seemed to me that these ideas were things he wanted us to do at each meeting. He did ask questions and we responded to his ideas, but in the end it was what he wanted to do. As far as our troop meetings I try to talk to the different patrols along with the SPL trying to let him get a feel as to what each patrol would like to do. Then we sit down and talk about the different things the patrols would like to do, allo
  4. All right Mr Bob White I KNOW it is not MY Troop I am SORRY that I did not pick my words wisely. As for being a country boy I do not have the ability to explain myself as well as you. Now when it comes to running a Troop I generally do as you say. My statement on how the leadership is suppose to run a troop was just a outline of how to do it. I was not trying to give a class on the way to run a troop meeting but just a outline, whch you obviously did not understand. Your example was very good and I commend you on your ablity to make yourself a little clearer than I.
  5. Hey, Bobwhite I would love to hear how you're course went and anybody else's just to compare one to another. I did not mean to bust Dan's bubble. My course did teach a lot of things, and I had a great time. I have sent a number of ASM's to Wood Badge, all seem to have had the same exprience and they went to different courses. As far as the patrol method, the break down as I see it is: Scoutmaster, Senior Patrol Leader, and the Patrol Leader. It works like this: You the SM consult with the SPL on what you would like to do in your Troop( campout, merit badges that need to be taught, ect); the SP
  6. As for the old Wood Badge course, from what I remember (I took it in 1985) we arrived at the camp and were told to find our campsite. We were given a piece of paper with compass readings on it and the number of feet to the campsite. Upon arriving we met our coach and were told that we are new scouts and to choose a patrol leader. At that point the rest of the course was an example of how a troop is run. We went to patrol meetings and watched how they were run. We did a number of outdoor skills - cooking, following instructions, being a leader by coping with certain problems (like planning how
  7. Rick, it looks like you went to a course that used the "old" school. The "new" one is more classroom then outdoor.
  8. It's true, I hate to admit it.These are some of the worst examples of their trek. The ranger was written up but he feels like it didn't go any further than the front desk. This poor girl just didn't know anything. If he hadn't been a experienced hiker at Philmont, there is no telling what would have happened if she had taken out a bunch of greenhorns.
  9. This scoutmaster has been to Philmont several times and he knows about female rangers.Maybe he did have a bad experence, and yes he knows the differance between swimwear and underwear. But we must remember that there are boys (young men) who have been raised to respect a female's privacy and he should get the same respect in return. It would not be a problem setting up differant campsites and haveing a male ranger take out the troop. The people just need to be aware that if this type of situation keep occurring, someone will eventually mess up which may result in charges being pressed against
  10. First, let me say I think women in Scouts is OK but only in certain places. What I am getting at is this - if a woman wants to be a ranger, that is fine. However, she must understand that there are small young men in the groups. I had an Asst. Scoutmaster who just returned from Philmont and he had a woman ranger. Well, was he ever surprised when she needed to go to the restroom, she didn't care who was watching. Then they put his group in a campground where the group had to pass through two groups of girls and boy did they get an eye full! Half dressed and running around in their underwear! C
  11. Mr rgreenland, did you do any overnight campouts?Was there any emphasis on outdoor skills or was it just a classroom-type school where they told you how to use your resources and encourage the boys to lead their troop and for you to find a rocking chair to sit in?
  12. Does anyone know the break down of the Council and District programs and what their responsiblities are? You know: Council President, Council Executive, District Chairman, Commissioner and so forth.
  13. Glad to hear you are going to Wood Badge. It is going to be something that will last forever if they use the old book. I would like to know if they use the new book and a review of it would be nice if they do. Good Luck
  14. Do you think a person could get a copy of the new program. I would think it would be interesting to compare notes.
  15. I was told that National is going to do away with Wood Badge as we know it. It is to become a non-camping and more into a lecture type where skills will not be emphasized. Does anyone know if this is correct?
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