johnsch322

How in gods name could she possibly think this process would only take 90 days.

This bone of contention has been going on for a few years and I think that if you have been following all of this close enough you must have question as to the validity of all of the claims. When a lawyer filed a claim with no name (but his signature) and another who gave an unfilled POC with his signature and had intake people use that form coupled with the fact of 25% of claimants not even voting I sure have some doubts.

It is all getting murkier instead of becoming clearer as to the outcome. Hopefully whatever will come to pass will happen quickly. I hated "as the world turns" my grand mother used to make me watch it as a kid. Now thru this mess I definitely feel like I am living it.

Not just the Judge but also the BSA and the insurers. All of the California cases will be filed by the end of the year and if the bankruptcy does not go thru all of them will be scheduled for trial and all by jury. If it is a cramdown then the insurers, LC's and CO's will start facing massive legal bills and then the subsequent awards.

I watched all of the confirmation hearing today and must admit I was very disturbed while watching Ken Rothweiler's testimony. It was if he raised his voice loud enough and tried to answer 10 questions which were not asked of him, acted like he himself was a victim and at the same time was ignorant of facts that nobody would question his sincerity. Coupled with KR saying he was signing POC's just to make sure that everything was filled out and not as to the validity of them. On top of that the lawyer who admitted he didn't really read and just gave his staff a blank POC with his signature on it to use and the biggest bozo who could not explain how his firm submitted POC's without claimant names and I really have doubt to how many actual survivor claimants there are in this bankruptcy.

And I for one feel very grateful for finding him on this forum.

I have heard that a member of SWG will testify Wednesday at 10AM EST. I think this will be must watch TV.

I would say that James Patton has been raked over the coals with more coming tomorrow.

I think we all do!!

Bribe?

Does anyone expect any big surprises coming up in the next week or so in the confirmation and if you do what do you think they are?

I can't get no

First one needs to look at the authors disclosure : [Full disclosure: our son was an Eagle Scout. He went through Cub Scouts, then Boy Scouts, in Maryland before finishing his Eagle Scout project (planning and executing a central plaza with flagpole at a school for disabled children in Gaithersburg) and in the process encountered over a dozen scout leaders. All were exemplary human beings. I never heard of any Scout abused in any way. He is most certainly biased especially when he states: But since the bankruptcy, these 1700-odd claims (which already seemed like a lot to me) Everyone needs to remember that Child Sexual Abuse (especially males) victims never tell anyone about what happened to them and if they do it is later in life. Second it was the BSA who entered the Bankruptcy voluntarily it must have been known to their lawyers what the ramifications of doing so could be. Third I refuse to be left in the mud. I believe that by the time this is all over (several years from now) we will find satisfaction. The initial value of the settlement was 1.1 Billion I believe and when it gets shot down by the appeals court how big will the settlement grow to? All thanks to those ":oily legal gurus".

And they also have veto in any additional settlements with third parties and I would expect that would include any new settlement with Hartford, Century and the LDS.

Somehow, I feel like the TCC has called the other party's bluff. they got nowhere in getting additional money so in return for their endorsement of the plan they were able to get better youth protection and TDP. Are they betting that more money will have to be put on the table to get the plan confirmed and thru the appeals process?

The one group that must be most displeased with the latest voting results will be the insurance companies, LC's and CO's. Everyone who was mediating on the side of survivors was hamstrung by the bad deal that BSA made with Hartford and that was compounded by the Century and LDS deals. No matter what they say publicly the insurance company's need this to go away.

I love the author!!

For those of you who are confused about how survivors feel about paying out of the settlement pot, please read the following: 2bb5e1b8-2ed8-427f-afab-a5c44f8d373a_9128.pdf (omniagentsolutions.com) Also how we feel about lawyers who can only tell us how hard they work!!

Is there a mistake in your past you want forgiveness for?

As long as there are those who downplay what happened There will never be enough of this.

It is a comment from a former BSA National insider. Why would you cast aspersions on MJ? Surely he was higher up the knowledge chain then yourself. He was laid off from a position of Youth Protection and not replaced by anyone. He is an acknowledged expert in his field. What more do you need?

If as much effort was made to combat the issue as was made to hide the danger, we may not be having this conversation. This from Michael Johnson former Youth Protection Director of the BSA "In my professional opinion, the truth is clear: no child is safe in Scouts BSA programs. The institution, as it stands today, continues to be a HIGH-RISK1 organization for child sexual abuse, due to the accessibility and opportunity the program presents to a range of sex offenders. Scouts BSA’s continued disregard for needed safety reforms, the organization’s long- established business and program model, and decades-long lack of transparency (at the highest level of the organization) with parents, experts, and courts. Throughout my time at Scouts BSA, I witnessed decisions being made that showed the top priority of the organization was not the safety of children, but the preservation of the reputation and brand of the institution and its top sponsoring organizations"

Unfortunately, some posters see us as greedy and looking for more than our pain has been valued in similar cases.

Soo it is perfectly OK if you depict survivors as Peanuts characters looking for a handout but calling the perversion files as they are known today wrong? I would bet donuts for dollars you don't give an answer.

I am a little confused by what you are saying is the "right side". James E West was the Chief Scout Executive from 1911 to 1943 and would have definitely known of the creation of the "perversion files" and it was under his direction that everything was to be kept hidden. Soo what is the "right side" he would be on?