johnsch322

In an email from my lawyers today I was informed that in their opinion it will take more than a year before appeals are exhausted. Hartford and Century do not have to put money into the settlement trust until after the appeal process however the claims review process will be taking place during this time.

The issues that BSA faced were caused by cover ups, secret files and the want to keep everything that was happening covered up to not damage BSA when fundraising. It was not caused by lawyers representing claimants. So you are saying that Child Sexual Abuse is just part of the larger human and race and compensating victims/survivors for the hell that they went thru and live with is ridiculous? So, if the average payout to a BSA survivor of CSA ends up at $30,000 each that is a ridiculous amount? You are correct about most of the rest of the world such as India where there are gang rapes of women and children and if you are a perpetrator you might have to spend a night in jail or the Middle East where a man raping a boy is basically ignored. Or how about Iran where women are jailed and then raped. My question to you is did you learn nothing over the course of the last 3 years? If you have not, then you should really reflect.

They are just delaying the inevitable. Money is not really the issue with them except that the longer they hold onto their money the more they will make.

Advance funding for getting settlement trust started. a8b7ab66-3106-4bdc-ad71-9e2a56280983_11010.pdf (omniagentsolutions.com)

Thank you.

And they were very segregated.

Was that Black or White Africans?

I sure hope they do not get paid for anything other than client representation. Nothing extra!!

I do not think that is exactly true. I think the fact that there has not been anything to discuss is what has kept survivors from posting.

As this long saga plays out my attorney let me know that my case has been filed in California State Court. Yes, I know that there will be a stay on it because of the bankruptcy but still I feel better having it filed.

You seem to be suggesting that individual or victims' rights to sue should be curtailed and greater protections be given to institutions such as the BSA from being sued based on the fact that the BSA is not the only organization that has a CSA issue. Not denying the fact that abuse should not have happened is not a defense against trying to minimalize the scope of the abuse, amount of suffering, and how hard BSA has fought survivors to be able to recover damages. The same legal system that you claim is bad to BSA is being and has been used by BSA to avoid fair compensation to survivors.

In the long wait how is everyone holding up?

I hope all is well with you. Technology is amazing and embracing it is the only way to move forward.

Simple answer is that the BSA did not want to pay for it and have the process drawn out longer. Wanting vetting was an insurance ploy so that they could keep their money in their investments for a longer period of time.

Amendment to the plan was posted recently to the docket 8950ce76-0b70-4e57-a957-d4d9cc3d51c8_10189.pdf (omniagentsolutions.com)

No the insurance settlements clear the insurance company of a BSA claim. A claim against the CO who didn’t settle would have to be paid fully out of their own pocket.

Right after you deleted mine I saw his. My bad.

And you keep @skeptics comments stand when they are not part of the judges opinion?

At Vandenburg I also saw the silos and yes that was kind of cool. But I was also raped there by two airmen (BSA Volunteers) on base property. Guess which situation had the most impact on my life? Why is it that you feel that fully compensating CSA survivors for their abuse however it can be done is a bad thing? Just asking of course.

Well I can say that maybe the plan has not been approved because no one can come to agreement about anything LOL!!

"The long and winding roadThat leads to your doorWill never disappearI've seen that road beforeIt always leads me hereLead me to your door" Beatles

I just talked to an old judge just now and he related to me how he presided over a BSA CSA case around 1990 and how it was a hung jury in the first trial and was settled before the second trial. I know it’s not pertinent to the thread but thought it was interesting. I sold him a car about 6 years ago and he just came in and bought another. He still sits occasionally and he is 90 years old.

Sometimes I wonder if it is such a mess that she doesn't want to rule.

Unless an exception applies, an organization typically is responsible for damages caused by its agents. An agency relationship may exist when an organization has control, or should have had control, over an individual’s actions. This concept extends to volunteers, especially if they are doing work under the direction of a nonprofit manager and on behalf of the nonprofit.