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Yes, and, perhaps, he was abducted by Galactic BSA aliens at the precise moment he was about to become of age and they took him either forward or backward in time (we really don’t know) and did sexual and unspeakable things to him, but the question persists as to whether he was of age in the time/space continuum of galactic travel such that he may or may not have been a minor and we’re unable to locate the Captain’s Log from the craft that took him, though he did manage to snap a selfie with the fairly clear image of the tail numbers...? What is the precise point to all of these posited what i

I am grateful for this clarification, which was also found in the Ernst memo.

As a matter of principle and constitutional rights, I would seriously consider switching. I love the motive, as stated, but I don't trust said motive any farther than I can toss my truck.

"YAY!" as to trying to address child victimization, BUT huge "ACK!!" as to privacy!! Wow.

Q: Are there examples of the victim claimants' submission forms/claim summaries used by other Great and Powerful wo/men of letters in mass tort bankruptcies?

On a related note, I've asked this before and didn't get any replies. I completely understand if no one here knows the details on this one. If I missed the answer(s), please forgive me and I'd love to be directed to anything posted. I am keen to understand when the counseling reimbursement program started, under what/whose directive, if it was proactively offered or had to be discovered and sought by victims. To drone on, I first gave BSA notice of my abuse more than a decade ago and didn't get a reply, much less an offer of counseling reimbursement. (I do apologize for asking again, but

He lives!! So the SE in my tale of woe had this. Well now.

Ah. Gotcha. The other guys would be best able to update you on that. I can also tell you, as you may have read in my posts, the SE managing this matter knew about the booze and pornography in our Troop. He participated, in fact. How can that be seen as anything other than willing complicity, failure of the duty to warn and effectively accessory to the crime of abuse? He was the dang SE for cripe’s sake. He knew we were being provided those things. In light of the criminality alone, exacerbated by his knowledge that these are elements OF abuse and precursors to illegal sexual contact, he d

Was my post on the ‘73 IVF of any help?

“That canoe trip was amazing until Grampa fell in and drown.” ”Yeah. I know. He ruined everything.”

Easy fix: Do a global search for “employee” and replace it with “agent.” Bam. Liability B.I.N.G.O. Agency is the issue and there’s that in spades. Legally, there’s no question or doubt. Employee was used loosely, I think. Carry on...

I’m not sure who’s using it as an example of a case that was handled poorly, at least not as to my previously noted Phase II. I posted it in response to John asking how these things were handled and reported in the day. His “day” was the 60’s. Mine, the early 70’s. I figured this would work.

This not my case. As I mentioned, this is an IVF I plucked from the online record that was logged in my town and LC. It is very relevant to my case and claim. Still want me to answer? I have no emotional attachment to this case and, I think, have been pretty open and willing to answer any and all questions about my own experience. Thanks.

Sorry. I didn’t realize it mattered. Wouldn’t mind but I have no clue how to do that. I reiterate, I’m a dork. Add: I think I did it. Probably ham-fisted, but you’re erased from the record.

3 hours ago, johnsch322 said: No need to apologize....I am not immune to go off myself. The point I was trying to make was there may not have been YP if pressure had not been exerted upon the BSA. I was a scout in the 60's and I am not sure whatexactly was the formal procedure for reporting was then. I’ve been through a number of the IVFs I could find. That’s how I came across the one relevant to my claim/case. It may only be anecdotal, but I can tell you exactly how that went down. I have the entire file and all the official communications that derived from the incident. Wi

I can speak for myself. Yes. He came to the Troop in the first months of 1972, to the best of my recollection and from looking at the memorabilia I retained. My “Eagle Award Application” lists May 1, 1972 as the “Date Became a Scout.” First incident of sexual abuse was July 19, 1972. At that first Monday night meeting, which was May 1st, he pulled me aside and told me I had “leadership potential” and he would “let me join early” because he knew I would be an asset to the Troop. Does about 5+/- months count as “immediately”?

I think we need to keep in mind that fabricating abuse is rare, though I’m happy to exclude political and financial motives in the recent climate. As a victim, I hate it. “Entirely sure” is a very high bar that would likely negate a tremendous number of viable cases, at least before significant investigation. Young boys are quiet about these things and getting them talking details can be difficult. Successful criminal prosecution just can’t be the determinative factor in viability or grounds for exclusion. Highest standard of proof in our system.

The big ol’, ever looming, not to be ignored “IF.” [*gulp*]

As valuable and appreciated as the letters depicting victims personal abuse experiences are, they’re heavily redacted. Yes, they were directed to the judge and she read some, but that was not the only purpose or intent. Regardless, the flooding of the court at the behest of the law firms seemed odd to me, as well. As lead plaintiff in a class action suit, my attorneys certainly never directed or allowed me to “speak” directly to the court, other than in mediation sessions even though I technically spoke for the class. As someone who’s worked in politics for a while, as I step back and consider

From The Mutts back in the day: On 7/1/2021 at 6:23 PM, CynicalScouter said: The Settlement Trustee shall be Eric D. Green and will be appointed by the Bankruptcy Court. I assume it is this Eric D. Green. http://www.acctm.org/egreen/ "He’s very close to BSA’s lawyers. He’s done a LOT of mediations for Sidley and Austin which are Lauria and Andolina’s prior firm. Green was rejected by the TCC as a mediation team member for that reason and others. He is said to have a god complex. Lawyers who had dealings with him were not complimentary. A vocal lawyer on the Coalition advocated h

Not at all because your point, which was to say I didn’t want a reply, was inaccurate. It’s seems to me you’re having a lovely conversation with yourself, serious or otherwise. From past experience, I’m using humor to diffuse not the seriousness of my replies or to diminish you, but to mask the degree of upset I have with your presumptions and mind reading. I asked if there was something else we’ve yet to hear. Simple question and others are asking it, as well.

I’m looking forward to understanding precisely what I lived through, in addition to child sexual abuse.

Ok. I give. You must be right. I thought perhaps something was missing from what we’ve heard all the other times. Fear not. I’ve been resoundingly put in my place. Or not. Never mind. Um. If, let’s say for gee whiz sake, a Boy Scout was sexually abused by his SM (and technically others) at the ripe old age of age 10 in 1972. Just to pick a random scenario. Did that fella live through this mystical period of laissez faire attitudes toward child molestation? To this question, I mostly certain request the honor of your reply. A lot of people were “alive” in this timeframe. Some of us actuall

Yes. Exactly. I’ve argued against that view over and over again. That’s why I suggested, “Are we really going back to that tired yarn?”

I’ve added this little (not so little!) factoid to the briefs I’m preparing for The Great and Powerful. This single fact is not only damming, but illustrative of a pattern of denial that is utterly indefensible. Well, other than based on self-protection, organizational preservation, fire-walling donors from reality and not risking a decline in reputation and membership. How else can this be rationalized or excused? I’m seriously asking the question. I guess we revert back to the “different cultural norms of the day” argument? Search me. PS - This is the sort of thing about which I was utt