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Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Elaborate further, please? I believe a majority of the claims name abusers not previously known and similarly do not show multiple (or even more than one) victim. I may have that upside down and backward. Also, if a claim does not contain name of the abuser or other identifying aspects of Troop, LC, CO or geography, the POC wouldn't lend data to a pattern analysis. True or false? My recollection is, at one point, 30,000 or some big number had notable facial deficiencies. Numbers are not my forte and there are so many in this dervish, not to mention the number of zeros flying about. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
JLSS specifically said she reserves the right to take additional actions against attorneys if malfeasance is found. It's on every Proof of Claim, so I would think each. I have no idea where that money would go, but I do hear the sound of a massive vacuum tracking on the radar as eminating somewhere in the vicinity of the Potomac region. I doubt survivors would see anything from that, but perhaps the judge could direct otherwise. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Simple answer is that the BSA did not want to pay for it and have the process drawn out longer. Wanting vetting was an insurance ploy so that they could keep their money in their investments for a longer period of time. A couple things: 1. Claimants are supposed to be signing these forms, which they didn't in thousands of cases. When the judge allowed it with the soft admonition of, "and I better not see a 100 Proofs of Claim signed by one attorney...when I was in practice I never signed a filing for a client," the game was on. Did she see 100 from one attorney? No. Hundreds and thousands. 2. Had hard core investigations happened after the "under penalty of perjury, $500,000 fine and prison time" didn't deter people, we would be adding another 6+ months to the process. That said, who knows how long it will take in the Settlement phase once Judge Houser starts her review and initial vetting. 3. If the insurers got the green light they wanted, there would almost certainly be less money in the pot, along with some reduction in the number of claimants. I have no idea which creates a better outcome for survivors in the end. 4. As an attorney and claimant, the whole thing saddens me to infinity and beyond. I stared at that signature block and the dire warning, taking it seriously. Before I signed, I ran around in my brain like a chicken, pecking at every detail to be sure what I wrote was as it happened to the best of my ability to recall. When you don't have to do that memory and soul-searching, the bar is automatically lowered. Sorry, but it's true. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Several things: 1. What do you mean by real? 2. How much good money is thrown after bad to accomplish the task? Is it a moral imperative or a legal and pragmatic exercise? 3. Are the judges looking more at the attorney and claims aggregators or the substance of the claims? In this stage, the former me thinks. Remember, this is a preemptory investigation, not necessarily the vetting and scrutiny that happens once a claim passes through the initial decontamination process. 4. I may not know what I'm talking about. Apply this truth liberally to the answers and questions above. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I bought everything on layaway that cost any real money. The super big deal trifecta was my Jansport Mountain Dome, Camp 7 down bag and Hine Snowbridge pack. That was also 1976, based on the fact that is the inception year of my REI membership. Ok. I'm done deviating from the straight and narrow topic. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I mean no one ill in this process, but I do hope there is a reasonable separation of chaff and grain. It's worth noting (again) that JLSS not only directed Judge Houser to craft the processes and metrics for investigation but ALSO said she (JLSS) wants to see and approve them once JH drafts them. That says huge ton. -
For context: * The Aspen Institute’s study showed that parents with a child in ice hockey spent on average $2,583 per year in 2019. * After the gear comes lessons, lift tickets and the cost of getting to and from the mountain. Skiing and snowboarding costs about $2,250 per child in 2019. * Gymnastics $1200 * Lacrosse $1200 * Tennis $1200 * Flag Football (lowest at) $270
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Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
As well as the number of claims left standing after the JLSS-mandated investigation, ferreting and vetting. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Is that an inflation-adjusted estimate? I need to know how long to make the layaway term for the purchase of my new pair of Red Ball Jets. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Define “many.” -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Abuse that occurs after emergence (and Phoenix rising) is new liability with no release protection from the bankruptcy. Also, “claim values” will be referenced in future cases, which is one of the reasons insurers hate that matrix. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Looking backward, no. Forward, yes. Historical liabilities are released by the emergence and Phoenix rising. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/boy-scouts-nears-court-approval-23-billion-bankruptcy-settlement-2022-09-01/ -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
What is the typical attendance/use of the HABs by location? -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I was 99% sure about something once. That being, I'm wrong about 99% of the time. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Ja. What was the longest hearing we've had to date? 7PM ET or so? Why did BSA proposed Wed? We had multiple hours today AND the mediation parties previously fell all over themselves (and each) lauding their their herculean endurance skills. I'm sure we recall with deep reverence when they labored through the night while [*gasp*] the Super Bowl was being played. I'm shocked beyond recovery. Someone please bring me my fan and spirits of ammonia. Right quick... -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
By way of court color commentary, we've already had three recesses. One was because the judge had no Zoom feed. Another because we were exceeding online capacity. People were being dropped and/or denied access. Mid-morning, the number of Zoom attendees capped out the 1000 mark and they had to upgrade. The third recess was due to the attorney then appearing and speaking had a hiccup attack. To this humble reporter, the poor fella seemed on the verge of being sick. This post is intended as a substantive process report for those unable to attend this important proceeding. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Yes. The Coalition to the tune of 20M claims. One of the Coalition principals is front row, center in court today. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Debtors' side of the aisle? -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I would love to see the breakdown by firm. That's a lot o' photocopies... -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
BSA or claimant side persons? -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Consider it worsened. That happened already. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
She only deferred to a future motion and hearing, having preserved any objections. If the plan is finally blessed, that money will land in the Settlement Trust. -
Chapter 11 announced - Part 11 - Judge's Opinion
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Question for our faithful and vigilant fee checker: What be the current damages from professional fees billed to the Estate? As always, I am grateful. /s/ Iman Arithmaticfailure -
BSA CSA: Concealment or Trustworthy, Loyal...?
ThenNow replied to ThenNow's topic in Issues & Politics
So I’m sure I understand your ponderings, by “under the carpet” and “deflected” you’re referring to the concealment theme that started our conversation? Thanks.