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  1. $80 Youth $60 Adults $30 ScoutReach $25 Joining Fee $25 Merit Badge Counselors $50 Explorers These are now public. This is a $5 increase for youth, $15 increase for adults and a new fee for MB Counselors. The MB counselors are being required to pass YPT and undergo background checks as a result of the negotiated bankruptcy settlement. These fees are being subsidized by private donations to keep the increases at these levels. Without the private donations, the youth fee would be at least $100.
  2. While I do not have the specific numbers, I am generally aware through national contacts that Sea Scouts maintained membership and grew marginally during 2022. Its future will probably continue as a micro-program as long as it continues to be a low-cost/no-cost program to councils and restores more of its pre-covid/pre-bankruptcy membership.
  3. Early on, the bankruptcy discussions on these posts had a broader perspective including the impacts on both the BSA as an institution and claimants individually. There was a natural narrowing of the discussion and claimants led the way as the bankruptcy proceedings focused on the complex technical treatment of the claims and establishment of the trust. Now we are beginning to deal with the how the bankruptcy is significantly impacting the future for various BSA entities and it going-forward members. This discussion will ultimately include things like mergers, local council bankruptcies
  4. First, I’ll answer the original poster’s question. She exhibited objection to hearing religious viewpoints being shared at a BSA meeting (apparently a district BSA function), concern that her child might hear a religious viewpoint at some future BSA event and wants to know how she can avoid such circumstances. The answer is simple. The BSA will not limit the sharing of a religious prayer at one of its events. The BSA will not restrict a group of girls in our Troop from deciding they wish to pursue a religious badge. The BSA will not prohibit me from presenting my optional Sunday morning “
  5. The BSA’s Declaration of Religious Principles is a wide-open policy that welcomes all. In our Troop this certainly includes the girls who are still trying to figure out just what it is that they believe. It is the business of their families to help them sort those issues out. People who want to filter certain religious or philosophical beliefs from their children’s ears are free to do so. You just can’t use the BSA to enforce your personal views on others. This is because the BSA is not a temple, church or other religious, ethical or philosophical organization. Varying groups have tr
  6. I believe the declaration of religious principles as actually observed within the BSA is effective and appropriate. Those of us who have been deeply engaged for decades in promoting the operations and quality of the BSA have gone through many cycles of discussion and sometimes conflict regarding what the BSA should or should not do as its unpaid volunteers offer program to young people. I read through this thread and congratulate many for the low key and relatively accepting postings on a topic that has sometimes elicited rage. The BSA is sufficiently large and diverse to function as a
  7. Mergers. We will see many of these and for good reason. The principal reason is to being higher-quality program resources in the form of personnel (volunteer and professional) and facilities. The days of the council service center being a critical location for meetings and other activities are long over. These mostly-underutilized locations are often oversized due to legacy staffing levels. With Zoom meetings having largely replaced shorter meetings that used to take place there, and mail order having replaced the need for in-store stocking at the service center, the better option i
  8. Extrapolating membership results of other Scouting organizations after they admitted girls is interesting, but it is not predictive in our circumstances. We have gone through circumstances that would long-ago have destroyed any other not-for-profit organization I am aware of. This includes two decades of extreme dispute over membership standards, ten years of high-profile civil litigation against BSA councils over youth abuse, formation of a competitor organization that presents an ongoing public relations and membership campaign targeted to discourage boys and men from joining the BSA
  9. Can we focus more on how having Girls in Scouts BSA will impact the BSA over the long run?
  10. Here are some predictions to get this going. In 2033 ....... · Female youth membership will comprise 45% of BSA membership. · BSA will have reconfigured Cub Scouts by migrating to a GSUSA-style formation and operation model for that age group. Emphasis will be on larger dens without packs and no chartered organizations. The uniform will become a casual-style shirt with printed or iron-on insignia. Outdoor programming for Cub Scouts will be increased and upgraded. Mixed gender Dens will be allowed., but these will comprise only 15% of Dens. · After t
  11. How will having girls in Scouts BSA impact the BSA over the long term? By long term I mean your predictions should be of impacts at least ten years distant. You can be bold if you wish -- and I do not insist that you be granular or specific with your analysis. And, it is fine to predict impacts going beyond the BSA. I want you to swing for the fences as you predict things. I encourage those of you who do not participate frequently to have some fun and post on this thread. We have had four previous postings to suggest how units and councils can improve implementation and have captured
  12. Eagle1993: My views on Scouts BSA Troops for Girls regard program quality and feasibility at the unit level. What specifically are the "drastic changes" you seek? I'm guessing you are focused on the above-unit levels.
  13. Most of the conversation in these postings regards two questions: “Is what our lodges do with regard to the depiction of Native American culture ever going to be accepted by the larger Native American community?” And: “Is the continued engagement by youth members of the Order of the Arrow in the representation of Native American culture fundamental to the achievement of BSA goals? The answer to both questions is no. It is impossible to envision a time when Native American communities will broadly accept the depiction of their culture by our young people through costumed depictions o
  14. The lack of mid-course corrective suggestions tells me BSA is using a great approach with the all-girl Scouts BSA troops. I’ll admit I struggled a bit to come up with the above suggestions I made. We just need to keep with the current approach and do more of it — just like with the boy troops.
  15. The principal thought about Scouts BSA for girls is that it is so dramatically different as a program from GSUSA at the 11-18 age group that we are not in competition with them. I do not believe the girls in our troop would be happy in a GSUSA unit because they are looking for the rigorous and frequent outdoor programming we offer. I recall being shocked by the fighting words used by their national leadership when we first opened to girls. They have not been harmed by our program opening to girls and I was surprised they were not more confident in their own offerings at the time.
  16. Unit Level. Adapt unit web sites to more directly explain the relevance of Scouts BSA to girls. Form advisory committees of outstanding women in the community who can present as role models during unit meetings. Target and recruit outdoorswomen from the community to join the Troop Committee. Council Level. Assure long term camp bathroom facilities are better managed. There is some youthful teasing of Scouts entering and exiting these facilities. This should include entirely separate facilities. Task commissioners to work with girl troops on growth, including organizational and oper
  17. What suggestions do you have to upgrade the Scouts BSA program for girls? This can include operational matters at the unit and council level, as well as suggested program or management changes at the national level.
  18. I used to think there were two things that one could never change in Scouting: our properties and OA. That is really not true. Evolving these aspects of Scouting does happen in a positive manner when the first and final analysis prioritizes the best interests of our young people. The regularly-involved unit leader perspective is that OA is “twisting in the wind” with regard to its long term role and continuing relevance. This is solely because the controversial aspects of the program have not yet been processed. I can see why this is so, because we have all been dealing with so many
  19. The program belongs to the young adults who are involved. We cannot go wrong by letting them take the lead on what form the Order of the Arrow needs to take in the future. That is how the seemingly unresolvable challenge of evolving this program can be effectively handled. In the 1970s I was influenced greatly and had possibilities in life expanded through peer and adult examples I was able to observe while serving as a Chapter Chief and in in multiple Lodge offices. I was ceremonies chair and led an honorable dance team with advice from local Native Americans for several years as a yo
  20. Girls participating in Scouts BSA love the program and it serves them well when troops are well run. I’m glad that does not seem to be questioned in the comments. So, it is really a matter of market penetration to establish, maintain and grow quality girl troops. We can do that effectively during the next five or so years as we continue to recover from – well – just about everything that has challenged the BSA these last twenty years. We can’t expect in four years to have developed the deep bench of leaders who have a particular interest in forming and supporting girl troops – especial
  21. The impacts of adding Scouts BSA troops for girls and Cub Scout dens for girls have been tremendously positive in the lives of involved young women. My observation these past five years is that our Scouting program in all of its aspects (outdoor, advancement, leadership, etc.) impacts girls just as significantly and positively as boys. I have seen the very techniques that have proven so effective with boys work as well with girls without modification. Girls who reach First Class receive a boost in capability unsurpassed by any other program experience for girls. I have seen them do bet
  22. Mr. John's2: What have been the key determinants of the good quality of your girl troop's program? What in your view causes your girl members to stay active with your troop? Do the girls have the same level and frequency of opportunities that the boys do?
  23. Altadena: I'll bet over 90% of our girl members in Scouts BSA are in linked troops, so please do not take my observations as "anti-linked" in any way. It sounds like your two troops are doing a great job of operating the linked concept as it was envisioned. My first question on evaluating the presence of girls in Scouts BSA focuses on the roll-out process, and my key observation is that those who rolled-out the program focused almost exclusively on forming linked units. The stand-alone troops I am aware of were formed without much (if any) assistance from district or council folks. I thin
  24. I like Ducktape’s idea of engaging in an effort to recruit adult unit leaders not necessarily related to one of the youth members. 3 of our 11 ASMs are such people and are among our strongest participants. They all have previous Scouting experience and have significantly upgraded the quality of the member experience. This reminds me of something our committee did when I was a council VP for the old Exploring program (which previously combined the current Venturing and Exploring programs into one program unit). We visited Chartered Organizations and asked them to identify adults to be u
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