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Treasurer says we have to send money to the troop for crossover scouts
mrjohns2 replied to Nate_m's topic in Cub Scouts
This is all it should be. Unless there is some type of dues sharing agreement. We calculated it out and basically, by March, 90% of all expenses have been incurred, so our 2nd year Webelos pay full dues. The 10% we use to pay for a plaque / arrow. -
Experienced adult leader not sure how to volunteer with new council
mrjohns2 replied to TWP's topic in New to Scouting?
I really like the idea of being a commissioner. Unit or otherwise. That can get you involved in the district level, but that doesn’t mean only meetings. You can help with a camporee, or Klondike derby, or other such events that will allow you to directly help scouts have a great time. Very sad you for the cold shoulder. What they said wasn’t true. -
Opposition to the Quivira Council $120 Program Fee
mrjohns2 replied to RememberSchiff's topic in Issues & Politics
This, more than other things, will kill off Scouts. -
I have been doing a lot of observing and am just sad about the OA and its trajectory. The program was so important to me from 13 to 20 years old. My oldest daughter and I attended a few lodge events, conclave, and NOAC. I didn't hang out with her so she could make connections. She made some connections, but really didn't like the program. She volunteered to be an elangomat and will do so again in a few weeks. NOAC made it clear to her that she really isn't interested. My middle daughter was just elected. She wasn't too sure as she "just wanted to be a normal scout". So, she will do the ordeal in a few weeks, but I don't see her "going all in". Chapter meetings seem worthless. Ceremonies stink as they are in uniform (I'd like the black cloths option) and the lines are read poorly from paper. I don't see it being meaningful in my family. It'll last another 20 years or so, at least, but it will go down hill. I was on NOAC staff and it was very very poorly organized. We weren't even told about the thank you gathering for staff members!
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Correction accepted! Our advancement coordinator buys the patches and the SM gives them to the SPL to handout. I really like the @DuctTape's approach. We usually have a bit of a delay (a couple to a few weeks) before the new leaders take over. Elections in Dec and June for terms starting in Jan/July.
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CPR and the First Aid Merit Badge
mrjohns2 replied to OaklandAndy's topic in Open Discussion - Program
At our summer camp, the health officer is a qualified CPR instructor. You are welcome to choose to ignore the MB pamphlet and the guide to advancement. I can only point out the proper information. -
CPR and the First Aid Merit Badge
mrjohns2 replied to OaklandAndy's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Well, the MB pamphlet does say you have to learn it from a certified instructor: “Learning CPR requires careful instruction from a certified teacher. Perhaps you can practice CPR at Scout meetings. The American Red Cross, American Heart Association, and Emergency Care and Safety Institute offer classes, too. Your Scout leaders can help you find training to learn this lifesaving skill.” -
This is often the problem with national. The focus is on eagles and national high adventure bases. Such a tiny percentage of Scouts fit into those categories. But that is where the glossy brochure is at.
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CPR and the First Aid Merit Badge
mrjohns2 replied to OaklandAndy's topic in Open Discussion - Program
I‘m not saying the policy is inconsistent, I’m saying your interpretation is not consistent with the advancement policy. This time, it isn’t the BSA. -
CPR and the First Aid Merit Badge
mrjohns2 replied to OaklandAndy's topic in Open Discussion - Program
This seems inconsistent with G2A. It doesn’t say CPR certification, but just CPR wherever it is required. That is all inclusive - ranks, MBs, etc. -
It is a complicated analysis that could show different stories depending on how one slices it. I think e do of 2022 compared to end of 2021 is an important measure as is April 23 compared to April 22. Comparing April 23 to end of year 22 is interesting, and important, but bakes in some ebs and flows.
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CPR and the First Aid Merit Badge
mrjohns2 replied to OaklandAndy's topic in Open Discussion - Program
They both say instructors. I guess the first could be a lower case i instructor as in anyone instructing as long as they just completed the end user class. I read it as they both have to be certified instructors. -
I didn’t record the numbers, but I recall the total being around 1500 at the lowest.
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Has he told the coach he isn’t interested in any coaching, but here is my proposal, please process?
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Good luck argument semantics. Seems pretty simple to me.
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The scout is turning it in to the designated district person. Turn it in and move on. Or you can choose to make a big deal out of it. Your choice.
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I think you are going to have to get over it. Our district has a designated person to hand the project into. Just turn it in. Done.
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They aren’t saying you need to use a coach, just give the project proposal to a coach. It seems like they are the ones you turn the project proposal into. Keep it simple.
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Yeah, it is actually in the handbook requirement you need district or council approval before you start the project. What is the confusion? You don’t need to have the eagle coach help, it is just the process to get approval. Give it to the coach and get approval.
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It is very common to require pre approval of the project.
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I’m confused on this point. Patrol members do, or don’t, vote for their PLs?
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Many different background checks in the world. Also, the BSA will be able to track bad actors even if they change location. Not the best track record in the past, but this is the goal.
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National policy.
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You keep saying how and people tell you how and you don’t like it. 2 days after your question, the first clear how was given. It is so obvious, no one thinks it needs to be said, but tron did. Before it gets locked, I will again tell you how. If this doesn’t satisfy you, I don’t think anything will and I think there is some major communication issues. These are just examples. Like life and Scouts, it will be choose your own adventure. Lead by the SPL, mentored by the SM. I don’t know how we could be clearer and at least 5 have given you good answers. One more try and I am done. ——— When - anytime a troop gathers up and patrol names are given. This is at the discretion of the SPL. How - until it becomes habit, the SPL says “PL’s, assemble in patrol lines. Patrol A PL, please confirm everyone is here and give your patrol yell.” ——- That is the when and the how. No more and no less @Tron ”Basically anytime the patrol name is called out is when the patrol yell should be used.For example: when the SPL calls on a PL he should also tack on the patrol name ; and then the patrol would yell whatever they're yell is. It would be an esprits de corps moment that also could just be fellowship/horsing around. Think a scenario like the following:SPL: "PL John Smith from the Rocket Patrol is going to lead todays rank advancement and teach the square knot."Rocket Patrol: "To the moon!"”
