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I also think there's the weakness within the GSUSA of leaders kinda getting expected to handle 12 years of running a unit all the way from kindergarten through to high school. But the skills and needs of an elementary unit are very different from a high school one. With the BSA, there's a bit more specialization.
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http://www.scoutinsignia.com/jacshirt.htm has a pretty lengthy history of the jacshirt. I cannot vouch for the accuracy.
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I wonder if the local gsusa council will pull out of the scout night at the baseball stadium. It involves bsa and gsusa troops attending and camping together :shock and horror:
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5 minutes ago, cocomax said:
I wonder why 2 other councils would put up the same PDF?
Were these directives disseminated to councils by GSUSA for each council to use and customize and post as they see fit?GS of the Heart of the South:
GS of Greater Atlanta
It's basically the same as what my local gsusa council has as well. I'm not familiar enough with their processes to say, but it certainly looks like the ban/strong discouragement from participating in events with other scouting organizations comes from the top.
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9 minutes ago, SSScout said:
I did not see anything on page 26 about BSA fraternization, either pro or con AND on page 27, it states "" Respect the mission of Girl Scouts of West Central Florida (GSWCF)."" which makes this sound like a "council" document, not the National policy? Did I miss something?
But in any event, "all Scouting is local".... I have spoken to some GS leaders who told me they want to have their members (girls ! ) participate in a training we are holding, even after I told them that anyone participating had to "join" the BSA to participate ! Application and dues and all !
My bad, I must have been looking at the wrong pdf. Its on page 38, but quotes the same language of no events with the BSA that other councils have also used. I just assumed that something hosted on the national page would be for all councils.
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53 minutes ago, Treflienne said:
Actually @cocomax quotes from a council document, not a GSUSA document.
I have seen very similar put out by other GS councils. But I have not located it on either the GSUSA web site, or on my local GS council's web site.
https://my.girlscouts.org/content/dam/wcf-images/pdf-forms/Volunteer-Essentials.pdf
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It would also seem to accelerate movement to girls joining the BSA instead of GSUSA. If the reason they can't go on the trip is because the GSUSA says no, then why not join the scouting group that says yes.
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The only uniform guideline violated more often than the one patch per jacshirt is the term class A/B instead of uniform.
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One other "slot" for creativity is the right pocket temporary patch area. But you can only wear one item at a time there.
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Theres a general principle of once a uniform, always a uniform that covers this in that it once was correct so it should still be correct. I currently wear the den leader PoR patch from my mom even though its different from the current version.
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On 4/19/2019 at 8:21 AM, Eagle94-A1 said:
Further I have seen too many patrol counselors end up acting like den leaders and treating their Scouts as Webelos 3s.
I can't imagine it working any way but turning into being a den leader. If I want to tell a bunch of kids what to do, I'll stay with my pack.
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39 minutes ago, scotteg83 said:
Funny you mentioned FingerPrinting MB. My Son earned it at summer camp in under an hour as well.
Reading through the requirements, I could easily see that being about what it takes. There's just not a lot to learn or do by the requirements.
To me, a lot of this depends on the specific MB. Many of the MB are the most cursory of introductions to the subject, whereas others are about getting one up to the level of proficiency. The MBU is a good event for the MBs that are about the basics, not so much for the ones about proficiency. -
Do you have leadership plans for the scouts who will be in college during the later half of the process? I'm not sure how that will work during the extended time rule.
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7 minutes ago, Eagle1993 said:
I don’t know if larger membership numbers should be the ultimate goal, sustainable and stable numbers should be. I see paths to massive increases in total membership but some could sacrifice the program.
Both are good, but yeah, finding a way to stabilize membership is way more important than temporarily boosting numbers.
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7 minutes ago, Rock Doc said:
Just curious about the breakdown of the $40,000 annual budget. Our 40+ scout troop probably operates on a tenth of that amount. Are you including the costs for summer camp or super trips?
Not the person, but $40,000 to start up presumably includes a lot of costs that will be amortized over many years. Troop trailer, tents, cooking gear, etc are not cheap, but will last a long time.
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29 minutes ago, Eagledad said:
Where WB has gotten off course is in trying to make it the mountain top experience to match the reputation of the previous course
Isn't the real mountain top leader training experience Philmont Leadership Challenge anyway?
Wood Badge should try to be what it is, a decent enough leadership training for Scouting, and not a life changing event.
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In this world of cyber hacking, I actually find the paper forms more secure.
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3 minutes ago, mds3d said:
In the United States it is illegal for an emergency department to triage patients by ability to pay. Many Electronic Medical Records don't expose insurance information to ER personnel to prevent even subconscious decisions based on insurance status.
I almost added something about EMTALA, but felt brevity was better.
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Just now, mds3d said:
I'm sorry, "the slow-line"?
Can you tell me what you mean by that?
Should they treat paying customers or someone else first?
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13 minutes ago, FireStone said:
With Scouts BSA officially starting for girls in February, hitting Tenderfoot by summer camp is certainly well within norms in terms of time needed. Scouts who cross over from a Pack to a Troop in March an do it, so certainly if a scout signed up with a Troop in February they'd have plenty of time and (hopefully) opportunity to do so.
I wouldn't even call it "ambitious", I think it's a reasonable goal for any scout to be well-prepared for the summer camp experience.
Especially looking at the webelos requirements relative to the tenderfoot ones. Most webelos scouts should be ready to breeze through those requirements quickly enough having done earlier versions of them prior to crossing over.
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Its an N of 1, but our district is seeing actual growth in membership year on year in the Scouts BSA program, according to our DE at the last roundtable. That's not the norm for our district.
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22 hours ago, qwazse said:
I can't imagine any council wanting to lose a leader actually serving youth for a week just so course fees pass through its coffers instead of its neighbors
I wouldn’t go that far…
but yeah, worrying about who’s budget the wood badge goes toward seems to be missing the point.
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On the flip side, if the girls were in a GSUSA troop, its hard to argue that they didn't understand the difference between the two programs.
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From the Cub Scouting side, the issue is that Scouts BSA doesn't roll off the tongue the way Boy Scouts did, plus habits. It just takes a while to get it right.
I try to just say scouts when referring to a group of scouts, there's no reason to worry about gender.
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Unapologetically Exploiting GSUSA's Achilles' Heels
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Yeah, I'll probably follow the same path. But it does channel into larger and larger units. i.e. the den leader has to watch ~8 kids, while the SM/asm is more working on monitoring 20ish kids.