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  1. Yes i agree. it pertains to the whole section along with the adult supervision requirements. this is what they are eluding to in the below F.A.Q. only one registered BSA adult. As the rules do not apply to scout youth or unregistered adults. Ill certainly try to comply but its a pretty unrealistic rule given all the social interaction outside of scouts, IE sports and school pickups and such. given to the answer of the second question. OK . done venting. gotta run to a patrol and PLC meeting. (i am sure they will play the orb avoidance game) Q. The Bar
  2. Youth Protection and Adult Leadership Scouting’s Barriers to Abuse The BSA has adopted the following policies for the safety and well-being of its members. These policies primarily protect youth members; however, they also serve to protect adult leaders. All parents and caregivers should understand that our leaders are to abide by these safeguards. Parents and youth are strongly encouraged to use these safeguards outside the Scouting program. Registered leaders must follow these guidelines with all Scouting youth outside of Scouting activi
  3. so. after reviewing the new updates. in particular sarcasm in effect. Prohibited Activities (Effective 10-1-2019) 14 .Activities where participants shoot or throw objects at each other, such as rock-throwing, paintball, laser or archery tag, sock fights, or dodgeball. I must now also prohibit ultimate Frisbee,baseball and other similar activity's. oh and no more water polo or volley ball 9.Extreme or action sports and associated activities that involve an unusually high degree of risk and often involve speed, height, a high level of exertion, and specialized gear
  4. I would love to see national follow there own rules. @RichardB What about all those closed "invite only "Facebook and Scoutbook pages that i am not allowed to view? Seems a little hypocritical "Nothing to see here Citizen (Scouter) move along"
  5. I guess the troop will have to buy a stingray system now. 🤣
  6. When i was in cubs the pack paid for dues and one uniform. In my troop they pay for the dues.
  7. I do not think it needs much expanding. BSA has stated "A registered female adult leader over 21 must be present for any activity involving female youth". with no such requirement for male leaders be present for male youth. On its face it is sexist.some may not agree and that's fine .But it does not line up with the BSA stance on equality among scouts. A male for no other reason other than being male is considered not qualified to supervise female scouts. If this rule were turned around the other way it would get a lot more attention. As usual BSA has put out a rule with no explanation beh
  8. In this situation, I don't understand how it is the responsibility of the troop to provide the female leadership. If your pack is working outside of the rules it is on the pack to make it work. The same if it was an all girl den. The real problem is with the blaytonly sexist rule of the BSA. I hope you can get it worked out.
  9. seems to much of a coincidence that the national help desk and my council trainer are parroting the same idea. the rule is pretty clear. one single activity. i relay don't see how they can interpret this as meaning anything else. looks to me they want to increase adult registrations and are using this rule as a guise. unfortunately most people will just do it without question.
  10. They said that also at ypt2 training. the trainer said scouting is a year round activity and hours are cumulative. i just rolled my eyes. cant argue with a woodbager seems these days that reading comprehension is lacking on so many levels.
  11. And it begins. So much for not changing the program. why else would you need 2 handbooks?
  12. I think you need to at least talk to the parents first. I find it disheartening that we are mandatory reporters to the BSA and Government agents. But not to the actual parents of the scout. Who is a minor.
  13. Just wait. All scouts will be required to be in bubble wrap and inflatable safety bubbles. With no less than 10 registered adult leaders for any event. Adventure = risk. We are raising are youth to be risk adverse. No wonder membership is declineing. Safety is a factor, but should not be used to suck all the fun out of everything.
  14. Without getting into all the nuts and bolts of the patrol method. We as leaders are not there to supervise. Rather we are there for health and (true)safety reasons. the scouts run the show good or bad. only stepping in when absolutely necessary. and mentoring when needed.which is the hard part. Yes. our patrols work 99,9% (or did) without adult leadership,outside of the troop meetings. It is(or was) encouraged. Troop activity's always have adult leadership present.(drinking coffee far away from the scouts). Up until the last change to the G2SS. Patrol activity's to include day hikes
  15. this change fundamentally changes the patrol method, Having adults constantly monitoring patrols and youth leaders( the mere presence of adults will change the dynamics) undermines the goal of creating independent groups and leaders. I have talked to our patrols about this change and they all have expressed that they think that they are no longer to be trusted (by the BSA)to be independent. which in turn they question why are they in the scouts. In the real world of local scouting, where are we going to get all these extra Registered leaders from? especially during working hours? I h
  16. well, somebody has to make sure that scouts under 14 wont use wagons to tote around water balloons larger than a golf ball.
  17. We had this topic come up at roundtable training on YPT2. The district trainer is of the opinion that it apply''s to the whole scouting year cummively. So he wants us to Register all the parents if they want to go to anything. Needless to say we had a robust conversation. He sticks with that's the policy as I see it. Conversation over. You can't make this stuff up😅
  18. the link for Age Guidelines for Tool Use and Work at Elevations or Excavations https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/healthsafety/pdf/680-028.pdf Wheel cart (1-, 2-, or 4-wheeled) scout 14 and under not allowed. None with proper risk management. only the lawyers know.
  19. Oh wait. If you are a scout leader all this now applies to you outside of scouting as well.🤣
  20. yes you do. all activity's and meetings with female scouts present require at least 2 21 + registered leaders one of which must be female.
  21. We also use personnel water soaking water devices😂
  22. I love no water balloons lager than a golfball.
  23. getting back to the OP I think it will happen. Will BSA do anything about it? I highly doubt it given there track record. what saddens me the most is that all the focus is on becoming an eagle at all cost. the girls troop would have to cancel. The boys troop has nothing to do with the lack of adult leadership in another troop .linked or otherwise. As to the G2SS. I have asked what does outside of scouting actually mean? Can i no longer have a beer at home because i am a leader and my son is a scout? Can i no longer drive my friends son to baseball because of no one on one c
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