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  1. ValleyBoy

    Breaking Point

    DE and DD come and go. Boots on the ground is what makes the program go.
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    Required Worksheets?

    We except both. The question is what do you do if the youth loses there scout Handbook.
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    Required Worksheets?

    I can understand your concern. With our Troop we also give each youth a folder that stays at our meeting location that includes a sheet will the rank requirements that the scout is working on. Each scout is responsible for keeping a record of each requirement that he has completed. Yes this record can be recorded inside the youth scout handbook but the reality is that youth lose there handbook all the time. We do have a special needs youth in our troop an we make sure that his worksheets are updated since he also is not able to complete the worksheets. I do not see the worksheets as being additional requirements for each rank advancement as long as the worksheets only include the requirements as listed and no additional requirements. If the requirement is completed at our scout meeting it is recorded during the meeting. If it was completed during a camping trip/activity it is recorded at our next troop meeting.
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    Cub Scout Uniform Changes

    I agree that it can be expensive when the Webelos has not out grown his blue cub scout uniform. But also remember that an scout uniform never becomes an unofficial scout uniform. therefor since the blue cub scout uniform has been a official Webelos uniform it will always be official. Just from this I would not require the uniform change until the youth has out grown his cub scout uniform. Just my two cents worth.
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    This old Eagle Scout is still learning new skills inside scouting even after being back in the program for over 15 years. Or it might be that I am so old now that I have just plain forgot stuff as I have grown older so it now seen new all over again.
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    New Member

    Welcome to scouter.com
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    New Member

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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    Before the change on gay youth with our troop it was a subject that we did not bring up or discuss. Since the change it is a subject that the adult leadership has discussed. Kids will be kids an make dumb decisions at times and our normal scout is attracted to girls for the most part so as a program we have rules in place that hopefully if followed will keep dumb decisions from taking place. The issue that our adult leadership has discussed concerning gay youth within the Troop is that know, how do we deal with boys that are attracted to boys. and what rules do we need to put in place for this issue. As a troop we have not had to face this issue but it is a concern. As far as Gay adults, nothing has changed with our troop with the BSA policy change.
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    Scout Dishonesty During an Eagle Project

    Correct. Reasons why this is correct. The project was approved by the unit committee and the Scoutmaster. The issues above about the scout meeting with a specific person to reviewed the proposal and photos of the project should have been address before the unit committee approved the project. If the unit committee has questions about the status of the project they need to ask the SM not the scout.
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    Chartered Organization not a Legal Entity?

    I do not see it as the school district taking over the PTO. Also I do not see it as the PTO not being able to manage there own finances. In our local school system every parent group that supports any activity for any of the schools in the local school system has to use the school system PO system for any funds paid out of the funds that they have inside there account that is held by the local school system. I have never heard of the local school system not writing a check for the PO that any of the groups have generated as long as they have the funds inside there account with the school system. I know the local band boosters have generated a PO on Tuesday evening and had a check in hand to pick up supplies needed on Thursday.
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    How do you end your Troop meetings?

    We also circle up joining hands right arm aver left then sing the first verse of Taps which are: Day is done, gone the sun, From the lake, from the hills, from the sky; All is well, safely rest, God is nigh. Then we say this short prayer. Now may the great father of all good scouts be with us till we meet again Good Night.
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    Ordeal in 31 days, oh my

    The above could be done by other lodge members that are not part of the ceremonies team.
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    As a former Cubmaster, I would have concerns about any cub scout attending pack activities with any non-family member without another adult family member present. The reality is the only persons that a background check is preformed on are registered adults inside the scouting program. The difference between your father and your ex-husband attending events and your boy-friend attending events with your son is that the boy-friend is not a family member.
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    Down sleeping bag + Nikwax

    I have had my down sleeping bag for right at 40 years had have not had any problems with the bag except have to make a repair on the zipper about 10 years ago. Also I have never done any waterproofing to the bag. And yes the bag has gotten wet due to a leaky tent during a rain monsoon. Three inches of water inside a tent will do that. Was not by tent but I will always remember that night. Biggest thing is to take care of the bag. by cleaning it and when it does get wet to dry it out.
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    Origin of the Eagle Pledge and Eagle Charges

    It is the Youth that has reached the rank of Eagle Scouts Court of Honor. Therefor in our unit we plan the ECOR per the Scout and his families wishes. Some know what they want included, others have no idea. As a unit we assist the scout with the ECOR. and try our best to plan the COR according to the scouts wishes.
  16. With our local councils camporee coming up this weekend and from reading posts on this site for the past few months it has got me to thinking about what type camping locations other Troops use for camping trip. Our Troop usually only camps on scout property at most 2 times a year. One is the upcoming camporee this weekend and another scout property if a council event is scheduled for that location. The second scout property is mainly used cub scout family camping and other district or council activities. We usually camp once a year in the primitive area of a local public campground. Troop has never been charged to camp at this location. In the 13 years I have been with the troop, we have only camped in a state/public campground 3 times. The rest of out troop camping trips have been on private property. Out of all the private property that our Troop has use I know of no cases were the property owner would not allow the Troop to return to the property. Usually the only cost that the scouts have for these camping trips on private property is the cost of the food for the camping trip. What type locations do your units usually use for camping trips.
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    Troop Camping Locations

    Excluding summer camp, our troop usually only travels as a unit about once a year for a camping trip. Those camping trips are mainly the ones that it takes over an hour to get to the camping location or the location is very hard to give parents directions to the site. Most of the sites we camp at are less than a 45 minute drive and we have the parents bring the scouts to the camping site. We do this mainly to not have to wait until 6:30 or later on Friday evening to leave on a camping trip to when all the parents get off work.
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    Troop Camping Locations

    Most of our has been from knowing people with land available. Only 3 locations are owned by unit leaders and 1 by the grandparents of one of our youth members. Out of these 4 we have yet to camp on any of these 4 properties.
  19. The only camping trips that we do not have fire at is when the area is under a no burn order or during the summer when the temperature is very hot then on a small cooking fire.
  20. A camping trip is not complete with out a fire. Adults in our unit do like to burn some wood. A fire does have it uses. Nothing like cooking over a fire, then letting the fire turn into outdoor TV.
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    Scouts Deciding On Their ES Project

    My son's project was inside the city park playground just a few blocks from our home. The other 3 Eagles from our Troop were: 1) An outdoor class at the Elementary school that he the scout had attended. 2) Covered pavilion at the Church that is the Charter Organization for the Troop that the scout and his family is also a member off.. 3)Moving the location of a flag pole from a Cotton Mill that was being torn down, across the street so that the flag pole was next to a WWII monument that listed all the citizens of the community that died in WWII. One of the other Troops in our area has had several different scouts that built covered Bus stop pavilions in different locations around town so that student do not have to stand out in the rain waiting on the school bus. I have been on several Eagle Boards were the scout came up with their project from just calling the Army Corp of Engineers that are over a local lake.
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    Camping vs. Sleeping in a Cabin

    My old council scout camp which is still in use by my present council was all cabin camping for summer camp. All but 2 of the cabins were open air due to there not being any chinking between the logs. All each of the cabins had was lights, electrical outlet and cots.
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    Veteran Unit

    The Troop that I am a member of had over 50 years with no lapses in the charter in the mid 70'. The unit did lapse something in the later 80' or 90' not sure when. I do have an old green' scout shirt from the later 70' that I still ware on occasions that has the yellow 50 years badge below the unit number. With a Council merger years ago our units number did officially change. All the unit numbers from the old Council were changed to 9000's. Our units number officially changed from Troop 9 to Troop 9009 with the merger. When it come to the uniform all the members of the Troop only have the number 9 as the unit number. We have never been question by anyone from the District or Council on this subject.
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    All Scouting is local.....

    Yes Scouting is a global movement but the core building blocks of Scouting are still based on the local unit.
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    Pl - Spl For Small Troop

    In our Troops the SPL does function as a TG and the main youth mentor to the PL & APL. We have a ASPL due to the fact to fill the gap and step in if the SPL is not able to attend a Troop meeting or activity. At this time we only 12 active youth in the Troop. 1 that ages out the next 6 months. 2 that will age out in a little over a year. A 15 year old that has not wanted to take any leadership responsibilities within the Troop and 8 brand new scouts. The SPL & ASPL at this time are the two 16 year old that will age out in a little over a year. The 17 is working on his paperwork for approval of his Eagle Project. PL and ASP are both one of the brand new scouts. All the new scouts have just started to bring up the subject of replacing the PL for missing meeting. At this time the SPL has his hand full getting all the new scouts past the pop tart and P&J menu stage for camping trips among other things.