Eagle1993

There are some that read it. This site has been mentioned in the past by Surbaugh (not in a positive light). I believe Richard Bourlon reviews content and he has responded to various topics. While many on the site may not agree with all of his responses, I think its great that he pops in from time to time. I would welcome other National leaders. I'm not sure if anyone involved in the DE&I MB look at this site, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did. They should look at scouter.com and the FaceBook page comments from scouters. That doesn't mean they should be paralyzed by the co

The real best way is to look at those 11,000 - 13,000 claims and see where a policy difference could have prevented the issue. Essentially, find common root causes and see if any are systemic then look at possible policy changes. I think I have speculated that perhaps greater oversight to ensure COs are doing their job ... but I don't know if that is a systemic root cause of the abuse that is currently occurring. Perhaps it is more transparency to share with the volunteers incidents and how to avoid them. I expect there are some changes that could come in that would not negatively impa

Agreed. I do think there is a chance that the non monetary changes could have negative consequences. They only real way to avoid one on one is adults must be with an adult buddy at all times. Im not advocating for this, just indicating some possible non monetary impacts of bankruptcy.

This is pretty funny ... sad ... but funny. Dark humor my friend...

This is what I see happening; however, National has been clear. If this takes until fall they will go into liquidation. If they are being honest (I don’t think they are) and I expect 0% chance the bankruptcy is done by fall, Eagle Scout rank will no longer be owned by BSA. It will be sold along with all National assets. Perhaps during liquidation the GSUSA will be given Eagle Scout trademark as part of the settlement. Who knows. I expect the most likely outcome is a 3 - 4 year settlement battle. Cases may spin off about HA camps, LC individual assets/camps. CO property and assets. N

My council also does not have a summer camp. They should, but saved Cub Scout camps and sold off their summer camp.

I question that in this case. If the claimants continue to vote against the offer they can essentially force the BSA to part with core assets. They only way out is the judge enforcing a cram down but when has that every happened with a sexual abuse bankruptcy?

I’ve never heard this before. What law enforcers this?

True ... and I expect it should be better. But as mentioned previously individuals youth may not report until their 30s or 40s. So if the assault occurred on a 12 yo and in 1998 they would likely report it until 2020 on the early side. I believe that would be part of the argument to not overestimate the reduction. I still think YPT helped.

I tend to agree. That said, go to summer camp. Go to Philmont, if you can, this summer. Enjoy it now as there is no guarantee they will be there next summer.

I've been seeing more panic parents pushing Eagle recently ... I wonder if this is in their mind as well.

For me, we are at too many what ifs to really plan. My primary concerns are: - Philmont ... I have 2 crews going ... will that happen and is their money safe? - Summary Camp ... will my camp be pulled by this summer and are our deposits safe. I think, for now, both are safe for this summer so we move on. The summer of 2022, on the other hand ....

The only specific was releasing the names of everyone on the volunteer ban list. I took a look at other settlements and a couple of areas we may see changes (just a guess): So, imagine opening up scouting.org ... there may be a big button that states report abuse. The other areas I have seen is requirements for 0 tolerance policies. If a youth or adult violates any aspect of YPT and its confirmed, they are out, banned and don't be surprised if made public. The third is more public openness about policies and violations that have been reported. These are some of th

Saturday all day events hits us hard. Overtime for custodian staff. The day of the week meeting cost isn't bad ... PWD alone is $500+ for room rental.

Nope. Just a check or cash. These are meeting rooms anyone in our village can reserve online. It costs us about $4,000 per year between the Pack and Troop. Our CO does not have a building.

Where we meet today. We don't meet at our CO. We pay for meeting space at libraries and public rental locations that are open to all groups.

No.

I've decided to stop FOS or any fundraising that helps my council. They have over 200 claims. I expect most of my funds will go to a bankruptcy settlement. I will give them the funds I typically provide post bankruptcy settlement. I'm going to recommend my Troop and Pack take a similar plan ... save your contributions and then provide post settlement.

The only message ... this bankruptcy only effects national. It has no impact on the councils, units or COs. A bit of info trickled out that we may pay into a fund but no real serious discussion of impacts. Given that nearly every council said the same thing (you can see this in media feeds) I expect that was directed by National. They may have been gaming this out, but they have not prepared us for any impact.

What they made clear is they expect 100% of assets that are non restricted. LCs haven’t shared that data so they don’t know if $300M is enough. If a camp is restricted, prove it. If you can’t they want it. Otherwise, face 10,000+ lawsuits.

A few more points. TCC clarified that there are 101K claims. They said 83K were unique. They also clarified they believe some may be fraud most most are true. They also said the data issues on many claims need to be cleaned up and have examples. (One claim didn’t list the council. When they looked they found the individual put the council name next to the Troop number in the Troop field.). Again, they think there are some false claims bust my takeaway is they believe most are real. TCC’s goal is maximum payout. They do not care if BSA cannot function post bankruptcy. They also

News starting to hit local councils. That was fast. North Carolina Boy Scouts accused of underpaying abuse survivors (wxii12.com)

I hope so. I’m just not convinced the BSA evolves quickly enough to survive this.

To be clear. The TCC legal team, accountants, etc are all billed to BSA. They have to pay them. They are not working on contingency.

They get $1M per month. The TCC lawyers do at least.