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  1. NJ, Yea I know I should exspect the over analysis and the search for something to be outraged about,in a forum on issues and politics.I still had to chime in since I know the camp and the people.I know that the hazeing whether physical or emotional is not the accepted policy at the camp.I can see where you can dig those things out of the article.I have no idea what the context was that brought the words to the reporter and neither do any of you. my concern is mostly that these are real people that these supposed violations are being attributed to.Ther names and locations are given i
  2. Wow this is amazing.I'm sure the director had no clue what the article was going to look like.It looks like something that developed out of lots of questions being asked to him while he was showing off the pride and joy of the council. First the reporter has pieced together what he thought would make a good story.Now those pieces are being dissected by you guys. I'd lay you odds that he has no idea that he was saying anything controversal.I know the camp program doesn't include the hazeing elements talked of in the article.How those things came into the conversation,who knows. I kn
  3. I beleive Meryln is looking for a job writing for the Enquirer.He sifted through a nice camp promotion article to find a few lines that could be twisted to create a controversal headline. So when did ignoring or not ignoreing a scout rule come into play here?Todd gave a realistic appraisal of the variety of campers enjoying a week next to the Pacific.Unless someone is using the camp as a pulpit from which they preach atheisim, the camp director has nothing to do with peoples private beleifs. I know the people in this article,Don much more than the others.He is amazing at useing
  4. I want to point out that the situations I've been addressing are but a small portion of boys.I see many successes as well. I've been concerned when some boys were elected,then I watch as the boy shows amazing growth and maturity.
  5. Like I said the boy needs to at least show up.You can't help them if they are not there.We have not done our duty if we allow credit without any effort.Definitely we need to help and support,I never implied otherwise.We do JLT training in troop we always talk with our youth leaders to help them out. If the scout makes the minimum effort of being there he has all of the help he could use.
  6. Eamonn I'm sorry but expecting a boy to do something more than wear a patch in order to get his leadership requirement is not exactly a sly or back door tactic for slowing a boy's advancement. This boils down to fullfilling the requirement no more no less. no judgement of quality of leadership is involved,but it would be nice if a patrol leader showed up at PLC,s or arranged for a proxy if he can't make it. It's always a learning process and all I ask is that they make an effort.
  7. I understand the frustration that would drive a leader to put an age requirement on Eagle.As has been stated,no can do. My main concern has always been that boys are makeing it to Eagle without ever showing any leadership. One of the big problems I've seen is that the way the rules are written a boy has fullfilled the leadership requirements as long as he was on the books as a leader.Many times the boy never did the job. Something we attempted when I was advancement chair was to give the PLC and Scoutmaster the option to take a person out of a leadership job if they are not doing at
  8. Our troop uses a weekend outing to have a troop wide JLT for all junior leaders.You can get the materials at your scoutshop. Going through the exercises together helps develope a sense of team leadership within the troop. Stress and lack of leadership tools gained from formal training may have a lot to do with your SPL going over the edge. Your PLC should be producing a written plan for upcoming meetings so that ASPL should have information he needs if SPL misses meeting.We do PLC's monthly. Our current SPL has started the process of doing a reflection after each meeting.He asks
  9. This could be a bigger issue than the boy being a poor leader. Hitting a boy with a chair is totally unacceptable and can be reason to kick a boy out of the troop.Not a first option though. This calls for a Scoutmaster talk and a disscusion with troop committee.If your SPL is using his position to bully then it's in violation of the safe haven part of scouting and becomes an adult issue. It may be time to have a new election.
  10. Sheesh,I'm responding without totally reading.So Anguished is another translation for my name?Oh well the names allready registered.
  11. FB WEll like I said their choice was guided by length of name. They had been my strongest chapter chiefs and we had a playfullness to our relationships. Sounds like you have a better grasp of the language than I. I've never worked on the translations before other than getting some feedback on the options we had for someone I knew. W
  12. glad you filed it. should be automatic. Another point of interest,tour permits are used in some councils as a way to track the health of a unit.If they are regualrly going on outings,it's a sign of a healthy program. If it appears that there is no activity,then unit commisioners can use that as a sign that they may want to check up on them and see if they need any help.
  13. OOPs! I didn't edit very well. "Sometimes I think the spirit of the nominators suggested name." should be Sometimes I think the spirit of the nominators suggested name is not captured in the alternative .
  14. This probably should be a different thread.It was brought up here though. Often times we will get a great English name suggested for a new Vigil but the translation to Lenni Lenape causes some problems and we try to find something close.Sometimes I think the spirit of the nominators suggested name.I hope Proud Eagle's statement the we can use other native lanquages is true,We'll check on it maybe it will broaden our choices some. As for respectfull.I was initially not happy with my name when it was given.My son and my first chapter chief when I became Advisor were the ones who chose my
  15. FB My apologies I read more into this line than I should have " As for political action or politics, I have always known the OA to be the hotbed of political action on all levels. I am not sure that one can arrange for it not to happen. " It also seemed like you'd ignored my post since you responded to Proud Eagle as if his comment on EBoard being selection committee had to do with you when it was to me. In my long winded way I was trying to express how our method discouraged the DE getting Vigil automatically just for being a DE. I got caught up in things and should of gon
  16. It appears that maybe Fuzzy has chosen to ignore me. Actually the way our set up is with the chapter chiefs and lodge officers being the selection committee has not created any political issues.These are the active youth in our lodge and with 25 or 26 (they've been merging some districts) chapters represented.There is a better chance that an obscure scout or scouter would have some one on the committee who knows them. Any scout or scouter in the Council, OA or not can submit a nomination.The committee hears the reading of the reasons for reccomendation.Then if someone knows the perso
  17. before our current vigil selection commitee chair(might be wrong term)started monitoring our selections there was a good deal of politics influencing selections and often times there were adults selected just because they held certain positions. Now anytime a reason for chosing a person strays,we get to hear this paragraph from the OA handbook. "The vigil Honor is a high mark of distinction and recognition reserved for those arrowmem who,by reason of [exceptional service,personal effort and unselfish interest,have made distinquished contributions beyond their position or office to on
  18. Luckycricket, have you seen the entry from venturingisfun about powder horn in central florida.He might be someone who could help you find local resources for you.
  19. I've put together customised certificates and used relevent photos as back ground.Each one is personalised. It's neat I gave them to my staff at a district merit badge workshop.It was covered with pictures of the staff at their stations teaching. Something with pictures of the group you are honoring and maybe photos of the camp and campers the money raised,helped support. I buy some really nice photo quality paper to do these.If you can afford it,they could be framed. I've got one of those thank you, scout pins I was given as a cubscouter about 12 years ago.I don't think it was
  20. You need to get a seperate charter as Venture crew rather than as a patrol within the troop.This could be difficult with such a small group.Also to get your charter you will need registered adult advisors.You need both male and female adults if you are doing coed. the crew should be run by the youth with adult support. It will be a challenge but it sounds like the connection with the troop is limiting your ability to function as a venture crew. Talk with your scout proffesionals and find out what you need to do to get your own charter.One thing for sure though is you will need to re
  21. You need to get a seperate charter as Venture crew rather than as a patrol within the troop.This could be difficult with such a small group.Also to get your charter you will need registered adult advisors.You need both male and female adults if you are doing coed. the crew should be run by the youth with adult support. It will be a challenge but it sounds like the connection with the troop is limiting your ability to function as a venture crew. Talk with your scout proffesionals and find out what you need to do to get your own charter.One thing for sure though is you will need to re
  22. Definitely have all the back up you can.Never count on just one location.It would be great and is advisable that the boy keep the blue cards for back up. AS advancement chair I kept a personal record and made sure Scoutmaster had it in his records,both hard copy and on troop master.Luckily our council has been pretty good with it but they are not perfect.As long as one of these locations has the record there should be no problem. If there is a problem at council level they will come to the troop first to check record.The scouts part of the card is to cover for a total meltdown of proce
  23. Same here.if you followed all the fileing procedures there is no problem.There should be a computer record and a hard copy file at the council.
  24. I don't think my son had any of his blue cards when he got his Eagle.As long as all of the paperwork for the merit badge is turned in at council when he earned the badge,there should be no problem. If everything has been done properly the badge will not be contested.The merit badge councilor should have his record if there is any question. Your advancement chair also should have the units copy of the advancement form that was submitted to council. I don't know many boys that don't lose their part of the blue card.
  25. I know that BW is reading,He corrected me on a misstatment(rightly so) via personal message
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