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We have 70 scouts registered, about 12 aren't coming right now, another handful are hit and miss on attendance. any given meeting usually has 50+ boys at it. no limits, but I know the SPL without more training is at his limit for what he can seem to organize. PL's need to step up and patrols need to be worked on some more cause some are way too big, so kids get lost.

Be consistent. IMHO it makes sense to give the tiger pin to the FEW tigers who earn the summertime award their first summer after joining June 1. and it makes no sense to award a boy who became a wolf on june 1 the tiger pin just because that's his first year doing summer activities. so like my youngest who joined as a tiger june 1st, he was able to earn the award thru 5 summers in the pack, and has one of every color, and then for the 5th one we gave him an old plain gold one we had in the pack inventory of awards. we usually have only a couple boys who earn the summertime award

If you don't want him to be a den leader, then keep the leader you currently have, and find another job for this guy--like helping with paperwork, or doing a task for a campout or pack meeting. See if he handles that kind of responsibility, gets out of his shell, and steps up or not before doing anything else regarding his leadership or lack there of. I could see several reasons why a parent would retreat to their tent at a pack campout that have nothing to do with being antisocial. We had one dad who was a den leader who worked nights, and sometimes in the middle of the day his asst

Yeah you have to specify in your unit policies and procedures that the money from fundraisers belongs to the unit. depending on how the fundraiser does, a % of the profit will be "paid" to the scout to be used for scouting expenses (list say unform parts, dues, registration, boy's life, summer camps, etc) for the boy who did all the hard work. That the money cannot be cashed out in some way, does or does not transfer with the boy to another unit, and what happens if the boy stops coming. We had a boy with a lot of money in his scout account from many years of popcorn sales, want to use his f

according to the guy on this thread http://meritbadge.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=3752&st=0&sk=t&sd=a the new ACPP should address the definition of active. It was supposed to be unveiled at Philmont last week, but I haven't found it posted anywhere yet.

you are rude, that I believe is why you have not gotten your tour permit approved. ppfffftttt

Well the Tour plan says "Boy Scouts of America policy requires at least two adult leaders on all BSA activities." that is NOT just mentioned in regards to the 2 deep leadership issue. but under 2 deep it says Two-deep leadership. Two registered adult leaders, or Two registered adult leaders, or one registered leader and a parent of a participating Scout or other adult, one of whom must be 21 years of age or older, are required for all trips and outings..... Appropriate adult leadership must be present for all overnight Scouting activities; coed overnight activitieseven those inc

I will bet that the COR of the crew and the troop is the same person, that the crew and troop have the same chartered organization?

meeting last night. parents filling out names of drivers on their abc medical forms and then filling out permission sips for the summer camp which is basically part B of the med form all over again, but specifically for that summer camp with place for date at the top. it will be interesting since both forms don't match on names of people who can take scouts to/from. does one form supercede the other one if they are dated the same day? 1 form parents were treating as for the troop and the other form parents were treating as for the summer camp. and mostly left the names blank,

Our troop does not wear full uniforms all week at camp, we travel in uniform, flags, meals, campfires in full uniforms (including socks with shorts). The boys with positions wear a different colored troop hat with their position patch sewn on the front of the hat. so even if they aren't in uniform, everyone can see who spl or aspl are. the troop makes a souvenir summer camp troop class b tshirt with the name/logo of the camp they are attending. but they don't give out the shirt until right before they are heading home. So they come home in a clean shirt for mommy to think they stay

Just helped with NYLT, and in our council we have patrol boxes with pots, pans, gear, lanterns, stoves, etc. we have 10 patrol box set ups, and can train about 100-120 scouts assigned to patrols that way, without worrying about equipment. Just a suggestion that you've probably already thought of. If you had access to that kind of supplies thing, you could break your groups into patrols, send out the patrol list of members that live close to each other, have them make their menu, email it for approval(if you do that) and have them take care of sharing payment for their own food for the

Oh dear we do no want to use software and/or a paid professional [accountant] to fill out BSA forms, do we?

Now I said "As a prior CC and as a current COR, I would not *want* to approve your tour permit/plan without addressing that issue in some way. " I didn't say I wouldn't approve your plan. When we travel, we usually want to know what we are getting into and try to be prepared for the possible crud that gets in the way of things going as planned. So when traveling by car, we'll check the oil and look at the tires (quickly), and discuss perhaps what we'd do in the case of car accident, blown tire. Cover with the other drivers where there is cell service, safest routes for travel

I really don't like it when the webelos leaders pick 8 of the 20 webelos pins to work on to get arrow of light. it's too much like telling boy scouts which exactly merit badges they'll have to do for Eagle, and leaving them no choice in the matter. There are required badges, and then there are some they get to choose and elective ones as well. At webelos level I'd like to see the den leader introduce most every webelos pin(often called a webelos badge) even the ones the boys have no interest in. some boys will find geology very super easy for instance. some will HATE IT and

As a parent of a 15 year old, who has flown places with a boy scout troop I think it safest for all trips to include 2 adult leaders on all legs of the journey by airplane. If one gets held up in security, the others have an adult with them until the other adult is cleared. If one gets horribly sick, the others have an adult with them to help them decide whether the trip can continue or how to get home. Very similar to the idea that no less than 4 people- 2 adults and 2 scouts go into the backcountry, so if someone gets hurt/sick/falls in a hole-- someone can stay with them, and

Richard, I don't want another form.... we kill enough trees in the BSA. the forum could come up with a few tweeks to the medical form so it is a better, more useful form. Just making the FAQ longer won't help. I have typed a bunch of stuff and keep erasing it. I'm afraid you'll take what I suggest and we'll end up with a bigger medical form trying to do more than it already does. [paranoia] parents fill out the med form annually, often right before summer camp, but sometimes at recharter time. The who can take your scout to/from an event belongs on an Event

Stop right there! = you have talked, nagged, tried to reason and told them to read the documents. to what appears to be no avail. YOU are at the point that YOU cannot fix this. A call from the program director, DE, UC, etc is potentially only going to embarrass them and make them more argumentative. so put it all on their desk, in their hands. tell them a short summary of your findings, and then IT'S UP TO THEM!!! Keep poking and they are going to go to war, talk bad about you, kick you out, more hard feelings, etc etc. quit poking. give them the paperwork

IH= institution head, the head of the chartered organization. CO= Chartered organization. DE=District Executive may be able to help unruffle feathers, but has no real power. UC=unit commissioner, someone who is not a committee member usually, not COR not CC. They can sometimes help as a friend of the unit, has no real power but may settle feathers. You really have no other recourse but to hand the paperwork you've completed, the research you have to the CC. give them a blank copy of the tour plan form if they want to start over. You can suggest that they should call a committee m

Stop where you are right now!! print a copy of the tour plan you made. print a copy of the emails back and forth [might want to edit out anywhere you called the CC or COR stupid or misguided ] a write up of your discussion with council(s) by telephone write up a SHORT document that says "This tour plan would be approved by council with your signature Mr. CC. As CC if you do not sign the tour plan as it stands, or alter the tour plan with the name of a 2nd adult who will fly with you, then it appears that the trip is cancelled. I [cannot/will not/am unable/can'

The thing is, with little cubbies and maybe young boy scouts, a list of parents makes perfect sense. when you get to be a 15 1/2 year old scout working at summer camp as a counselor in training for the summer, been SPL of a troop with 70 scouts, a very responsible scout-- you have the brains in your head to know who can pick you up even if their name is not on the list. Any of his aunts and uncles could go to summer camp and get him if he were sick--they live 45 and work only 30 minutes away and I'm almost 3 hours away. but I'd then have to list 5 people just for that instance. not c

I'm hoping the patch doesn't change. The consensus from adults running NYLT locally is that it should be two separate events for the crew leadersship and boy scouts because otherwise too much of the info is lost by trying to translate from scoutmaster, patrols, etc to what works for crews. I would hope that national would listen to the people actually running the program and try to make that kind of adjustment rather than ditching all the references to boy scouts to try to make NYLT cater to all units. We are talking training for boy scouts starting at about 13 or 14 years

Jet, If I get a chance I'll go thru the 6 day syllabus and the 5 day syllabus and look for what is missing. My son just staffed NYLT here and has a copy of both. From a quick check it looks like there is less "down time" for reflection and sinking in of what you learned. there really isn't much free time/down time/not someone in your face talking or teaching something to you with a shortened 5 day program. of course the program was shortened to 5 days instead of 6 so LDS scouts don't have to stay overnight on a sunday or saturday night. as to the writing of a "ticket" tha

So back to the original question who has a nice, short and sweet bylaws for a boy scout troop they might share? I'm looking for an outline, not specifics. I'm wanting an introductory page: The Scout Oath and Law governs the operations of the Troop in all respects and applies equally to the Scouts, Program Leaders, Committee Members, Parents, and Siblings when they are in attendance. The program will be developed and run by the Patrol Leader's Council under the guidance of the Senior Patrol Leader, Scoutmaster and his assistants. The Committee's responsibility is to sup

So you and family are going by car from home base to the common departure point for the high adventure trip. and the rest of the group is going by plane from home base to the common departure poin for the high adventure trip. What if you did 2 different (or 3) tour plans? 1 detailing the adventures of you and your family to get to the common departure point (and home) or all the way thru the high adventure days and then back home. 1 detailing the adventures of the rest of the group to get to the common departure point(and home)or all the way thru the high adventure days and then bac

oh for permission slips. right now they something like troop leaders have permission to take my child to the doctor/ER/hospital if injured and I am unavailable. What a permission slip/authorization for medical treatment should say is probably somewhere between BSA's out of control document and the above. Not sure the best way to determine what is legally necessary on a permission slip in the state of Arizona. I found revised statute that says Dr hs to have to have parental permission for surgery (which includes a lot of things we don't think of as surgery from a non-medical