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  1. the scout has prior experience with maps and compass, so his skill in this area isn't a question. He goes hunting where they are sometimes blazing trails to find game and then find their way back to the campsite with maps of the area and a compass. He just hasn't demonstrated that skill on a 5 mile hike since joining boy scouts. he will have to sit out most of this falls hunting I think. Right now the plan is for a couple other boys to go on a 5 mile hike and his job is to navigate a forest service road with trails criss crossing it that can be navigated by truck to reach the place the
  2. "It has been stated in pieces by several people but the full answer regarding alternate requirements can be found at http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/BoyScouts/AdvancementandAwards/earlyalt.aspx " if you read that link, you would see that it's a checklist of things to do if a disabled scout cannot complete the requirements as spelled out for ranks in their scout book and they want to substitute their own requirements as approved by their doctor that are similar but meet with their specific disability. The change to trip from hike is spelled out in the scout book a substitute
  3. Definitely don't want the Troop to be encouraging someone on crutches with a broken leg to be going on a 5 mile walk until released by Dr. He is encouraged to put some weight on the leg and wean from the crutches soon, but that doesn't mean he can transport himself 5 miles without aggravating his armpits and his good leg. Getting around on crutches is not so easy as some of the prior posters seem to think-- just getting around school on crutches thru a whole day can be very difficult. Even once released to resume normal activities, it's not a good idea to go from only walking arou
  4. The Advancement Policy and Procedures Guide for Disability "All current requirements for an advancement award (ranks, merit badges, or Eagle Palms) must actually be met by the candidate. There are no substitutions or alternatives permitted *except those which are specifically stated in the requirements* as set forth in the current official literature of the Boy Scouts of America. Requests can be made for alternate rank requirements for Tenderfoot, Second Class, and First Class.." The alternative requirement I posted are *specifically stated in the requirements* in t
  5. Well the scout book does have a * next to this requirement, which says "If you use a wheelchair, or crutches, or if it is difficult for you to get around, you may substitute 'trip' for 'hike'." So the requirement states Using a compass and a map together, take a 5-milke hike (or 10 miles by bike) aproved by your adult leader and your parent or guardian) so how do you define trip in the place of hike? *if the goal is 5 miles of exercise, that's 5 miles of walking on flat land or otherwise getting yourself from point A to point B in a way that works for your difficulty but
  6. So what would you do to keep a scout interested, excited and chugging along, when he has a broken leg at the ankle, in the growth plate, so will be wearing a brace of some kind probably til christmas, and all he needs to do is a 5 mile hike(or 10 mile bike) to finish his 2nd class and 1st class rank badges? he may be released to hike in a month or two, possible bike might be earlier, as it's not so weight bearing, but 10 miles is a long ways. just wonderin. got one discouraged little guy.
  7. It makes sense to me to pull in themes each month, they could be more generic that the pack chooses to go with what they usually do thru the year, and then pull out specific events to highlight the theme. for instance for the month for Courage, use it in October for fire safety prevention month and the local fire safety parade. Have all the dens work on something safety or health and fitmess related. My pack has brand new leadership team this year as I stay on as just COR. It's been hard getting them to just PLAN something for pack meetings, since they can't just pull up a theme
  8. We circle up at the end of every meeting and most outings. anything lost or found is shown/announced/asked about. those who claim things sing for their stuff. and it's usually I'm a little teapot, and there are usually about a dozen kids who run out to join in and a couple of adults who do the same, espcially if it's a song with silly hand motions or a dance that goes with it. or the guy in the middle starts the song, and everybody in the circle sings with them. I think the boys see it as an excuse to sing--they like to sing but they don't want anyone to think they a
  9. We keep the same den number for the den Tigers thru Webelos. This year's tigers are den #1. If we had enough tigers for two dens they'd be den #1 and den #11. Last year we had Webelos den 3 and den 13. and then they merged for Webelos 2's and are just calling themselves the Indians, number used is 3 cause that was the original den that split into 3 and 13. I like using the last digit of the year for den #. it would make it easier to remember which den # we are using for new tigers each year.
  10. We get usually 35% profit on popcorn sales. We try to "give" 15% to 20% of popcorn sales to the scout, so the pack gets 20-15% to use on expenses. Depending on if we meet or beat our sales goal for the year, we vote in a leader meeting for the % to go to the scouts. Our goal is usually $200 per boy, but we don't count sales individually. in that if you make your goal we don't reward you more or less than if you didn't make your goal, except that you get the %. Money is set aside in a scout account with the boy's name on it but no cash ever changes hands with the parents. the
  11. I often get a question from a parent, we don't go to church so what do they mean here. I ask them to think of things that someone might do to help their church. it might be something to help the church itself[planting flowers, cleaning the pews] or to help the church with something they are doing for the community[like collecting for a food bank] and suggest they try to do something like that at the family level. We also plan a fall food bank collection, to give them something to help other people that they could consider using for this requirement. but don't overthink it.
  12. If you call the company and you have a good credit rating they may raise the $1000 limit for you, and set the hold rate at a higher amount. but the reviews online are not so good for this company. now, who has $18 unbelievable micro popcorn this year? ours is $20.
  13. the info I have is that it costs 2.75% for each transaction; 3.5% + 15 cents if you have to type in the number. it should be linked to your unit checking account for deposits(not your treasurer's personal checking account), they ask for ssn or ein so they are reporting it as sales somewhere along the line to the irs. and if you have more than $1000 in sales within 7 days, they hold anything over $1000 for 30 days.
  14. Scoutfish you explain it well, why we might want to make sure someone isn't just confused about things as the first step in a discussion like this. Why would we assume someone is just confused? At certain ages and stages of development, it is normal for a young person to feel more attached and comfortable being around people of their same sex. Say you put that normalcy to the test by having some in your peer group develop and go thru puberty at a different rate, and you start to wonder and worry that everyone else likes girls and you are the only guy not liking girls yet so there
  15. Well I certainly wouldn't use the linked program exactly as it stands. but I might provide some tidbits from it to a new troop guide who doesn't have a clue how to get started. Hey, check out the forming a patrol page for ideas, remember flag, cheer, elect your patrol leader(or apl if the new scout patrol comes with an older pl). and then after that we have a hike coming up, maybe look at the hiking stuff in the trail to first class, and here's some stuff from the troop program features on hiking, maybe some stuff from that document linked about hiking. Not so much to overwhelm h
  16. We usually time our advancement to the troop in the Feb/March time period, to coincide with joining the troop a week or two before one of the troops easier campouts of the year. a campout that is not a backpacking trip right off the batt, where the new guys won't have the supplies to join right in. By timing our crossover to fit the troop's calendar it allows the young scouts to join and learn how the troop works on campouts right away. so rather than us telling you what works for us, check with your local troops and find out what works for them. Those who push webelos to be clos
  17. Mom talked to scoutmaster he says his hands are tied he cannot tell her anything without permission of the committee. she talked to the CC he says he does not know details of the meeting, and suggests an in person meeting to find out what is going on, that he did not tie the scoutmaster's hands to keep him from talking to her. She called me and asked who could have tied the scoutmaster's hands. I told her I would imagine that if SM had reported to the SE that the SE could have told him not to talk about it, and she should call the SE to find out if it's been reported. She i
  18. http://www.boyscouttrail.com/docs/2010troopguide.pdf this is a not bad document of what a troop guide could do, and how they could do it, to help a new scout patrol thru the T 2 1st class requirements.
  19. Well, scout's mom is pissed. Scoutmaster won't talk to her. Won't tell her what accusations are against her son or what kind of thing they are investigating. Let's see if committee chair talks to her. In the morning will talk to the scout executive. She knows that if an allegation of sexual abuse has been reported to the SE that she may not get any info, hopefully she'll at least be told if something was reported or not. Sigh. I'm pretty sure she'll also be at the next committee meeting Monday night.
  20. I haven't made any weird calls or freaked out on anyone in person or yelled or called the scout executive. yet. I think I'm being quite rational in my exploration of this subject. supporting my son as he supports his friend, and worrying. the troop has way too much drama recently. we did not need this to be an adult overreaction. I go back and forth between thinking the adults are meany heads that wanted to scare and run off this scout or that they must have been thinking it was such an important topic that the more people who knew what was going on the better. however i
  21. The stuff at camp happened in June when working at camp staff on the other side of the state. This is August. Blindsided = stuff was handled at camp, and now is brought up like it's an emergency situation. The scout did not ADMIT he was bisexual. The scout threw words back at a group of bullies to get them to shut up. Not the most mature thing but certainly not worthy of an inquisition. taking a scout aside to discuss appropriate or inappropriate conduct is a quiet scoutmaster's conference. Not 5 adults in a room with a scout with the door closed while everyone else in the troop
  22. IH is definitely not going to reply to a request by me--they have gone thru bankruptcy and mostly speak Japanese now(international arm of the business isn't bankrupt just yet). The more I think of this, I think they are running an investigation. it may be alleged abuse, or it may be just checking to be sure there isn't any abuse. The rumor started at scout camp where a bunch of the troop boys were working this summer. Lots of pretty girls working there, so the competition of boys for girl attention was a bit much. So to limit the field of competition, there was a bit of Oh you d
  23. COR was present and knew that the 5 people took the Scout into the scoutmaster's office and closed the door and had a conversation. I know he had heard the rumor, so he may be in the know as to how they agreed to handle this. CC came in at the end of the meeting to pass off the Eagle paperwork for his son, he's quitting and a committee was discussing new CC to take over next week. IH is out of the state/ineffective/absent leadership. The scoutmaster had called the other boys who were thinking of SPL position with 1 ASM present I think. Then they called in the scout and invited in the r
  24. I'm a bit afraid of typing too much info about a minor's sexuality. However, I'm not comfortable with SM and 4 ASM blindsiding a 17 year old Life Scout with a half hour grilling about the rumor of his sexuality. 5 adults against 1 scout. really? The rest of the troop sits outside the scoutmaster's office waiting for them to come out so we can do Troop elections. I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of these 5 adults saying to a scout "We are investigating your sexuality." The adults are also going to "make sure" the Scout hasn't done or said inappropriate things to other s
  25. While I understand if a cubmaster comes in and locks down a den to only do certain things each month is not going to work in all cases and of course each den must work on the things in their rank level, not at a different level. But if you are working out of the 2010 cub scout plans, they are pretty darned pre-planned-- do it this way or else it messes up the flow of the achievements, the stuff that tells the den leader where they stand in the program gets all messed up if you use them out of order. and it gets confusing. especially if you are trying to recruit new scout leaders for a super
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