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  1. If National creates a policy where everyone follows the same rules for keeping these forms SAFE from outside prying eyes, that would be ideal. following perhaps the strictest of state laws. I really hope the requirement isn't that you hold the forms indefinitely in some file cabinet where the forms will eventually outnumber the amount of safe storage space. Shredding after a certain amount of time seems like it would be appropriate.
  2. Oh we had the pleasure of his attendance at a troop boy's Eagle CofH on Sunday. that was fun watching him talk to all kinds of people and wondering how many times he was talking badly about the troop, but knowing/hoping that was just being paranoid.
  3. I don't like SSN numbers on the forms because we can't guarantee at all times that the form is secured. We turn a copy in at day camp, and it's never returned (unless we go by and raise a fuss when we check out and then they'll begrudgingly give it back). During camp it sits out in headquarters where a lot of volunteers could have access to it. they are scouters, so they must be trustworthy. [roll eyes] We turn in a copy for an OA overnighter, and it wanders off never to be seen again. We turn in a copy at summer camp, and it's usually returned and that's probably about the sa
  4. DC, his wife(ex) and his son are no longer members effective with recharter. Of course, they will be at the CofH on Monday night to get the boy's awards he earned at the end of 2010. and the DC will most likely be there for the wood badge beading right before the CofH. I will see the DE Friday (he was in meetings today and tomorrow). I am pushing for DC to be removed from office for slander, bullying and threats. I'm not sure how anyone can condone his behavior in this situation. Scoutmaster elect says he's not tucking tail and running away, and his lawyer has been contacted.
  5. oh and I don't think we've ever had our charter in hand before blue and gold in february.
  6. I turned in my re-charter paperwork before thanksgiving. and I know my charter has not been processed or it would show in internet advancement. the claim is that mandatory training is taking a while, that they have to go thru and enter all the new leader's youth protection info and process the new applications, and remove everyone who isn't trained. I don't know if that's true or not, I guess it would slow things down for those who showed as not having training, and units attached cards for proof, that would slow things down significantly to have to enter all of that info before
  7. I could see a few well placed donation cards to see if any out of town relatives, teachers or big wigs in the community that come out to eagle court of honors would donate. but they'd need to be very inconspicuous and in good taste, a little brochure and no in person soliciting of any kind.
  8. Scoutmaster elect resigned his postion in the troop. Seems Dist Commish is still talking "going to the media" and contacting SM elect's employer (he's a teacher) I believe he is contacting lawyer about this mess but he's not talking to anyone at the moment. I know he's really hurt over the continued attacks. Scouting isn't fun for him anymore, that's for sure. Unfortunately when the discussion of replacement came up Nobody in the Troop raised their hands with interest in being Scoutmaster in his stead. Retiring scoutmaster will stay on for an addition month
  9. Actually I think brand new leaders would LOVE to have a few completely organized meetings with the gathering activity and all parts filled out, even with a suggestion of discusing the upcoming pack meeting or activity. And then as the year progresses and the scouter gets more and more into the program, start leaving some holes, or more choices of things to do. That is how our pack trainer does it, start with a few fully trained meetings, the first one the trainer leads, the second one the trainer starts it and hands it off to the newbie, and then the newbie takes over with a couple of fully
  10. you have it right if you use 3,4, 5 for bear badge you could use 6 a-g and 7 a-f for elective points giving you 13 points so 1 gold and part of a silver. but if you don't do say 5c it is not elective. I don't have my bear 2010 program in front of me, but the first round of that said that you could use any unused parts of achievements for elective points. that is in direct contradiction to waht the bear book itself says, and the book should be your guide. double check what this year's edition of the book says just to be sure. to make it easier on yourself announce to eve
  11. well I would figure out a way to put a table of contents at the front so you'd know exactly what achievement was being done in what meeting. and a little bit easier way of rearranging things so that you can make things fit the local cub scout pack's calendar of events. there are some logical things that cub scouts do, that it would make sense for each pack to be able to arrange so each den is doing similar things each month so they could share outings, events and pack meeting stuff easier. Not themes like they used to be, but themes of what cub scouts DO. in August or Sept they
  12. There should definitely NOT be $100 trips every month. if that cost is passed on to the parents every month, then the troop committee needs to do some serious fundraising--past the point of your son peddling cack to your neighbors. Now if you don't have a nice backpacking backpack, and your son wants to go, that could be a $100-200 trip unless the troop has extras he can borrow. and if you decide to buy ski bib, goggles, new ski type jacket and gloves for you son plus a new sled, that could be a $100-200 trip just to go play in the snow. and if you need to buy the tent, nice sl
  13. Well you'd expect 1 outing a month, with 1 of those week long summer camp to cost $300 or more (ours is $500 in San Diego this summer, but last summer was $200 so it balances out) the backpacking trip will cost gas (our parents usually donate it), each boy brings their own backpacking food, so it's usually considered a "free" trip. ski trips, we do in January, the boys split the cost of hotel room, 4 in a room and the hotel gives them a really good price since they rent usually 12-15 rooms. if the boy wants to ski or snowboard, the parent usually pays that cost directly to the
  14. ""Our DE, who is supposed to be supporting our program, has instead become a source of great frustration to our leaders naw sub Dist Commish for DE. I'll keep DE he's immature but has some potential although he's not completely innocent in this. Our old DE got a lot of complaints from the units, but he did kick butt on fundraising. I just made sure in dealings with him I knew fundraising was his strength and kept any other requests from him at a minimum. He got promoted to another position in the council.
  15. yeah I'll just use this ""Our DE, who is supposed to be supporting our program, has instead become a source of great frustration to our leaders. He has lied about us, lied to us, misrepresented our words, and tried to have us removed, all for no apparent cause. We find ourselves completely unable to trust him moving forward, and to protect ourselves, we don't expect to be involved in any district or council activity where we might encounter him. Our unit has been in turmoil, our adults have been ready to quit Scouting altogether, our emotional energy is shot, and our focus has been removed f
  16. I figure the troublemaker went to the troop committee, District Committee, Council, so the next level he threatened to go to is National and then the Media. I wonder if he'll do those, and I forgot to ask what council they will do if he tries that. I honestly feel hatred for this guy, and I have always said that like is too short to hate people, it uses up too much of your own life force. so I will focus on the positive. and thumb my nose at this guy. What really got council to look was comparing the whole print out to the DC's cut and paste, the one where h
  17. We also have a star wars rocket. unfortunately the little star wars ship doesn't fit on the rocket anymore. it hit too hard one time with a parachute malfunction.
  18. We had issues with the county parks having a no Estes rocket policy. I guess someone launched some rockets and made a mess and then someone thought they'd also catch fire to brush--although that is pretty unlikely. to get the experience, go out and buy a sample like I said from Michaels, and read all the directions 3 times then build and launch. launch it several times til you run out of engines. Ask if anyone in your pack has any experience with rockets, you'll probably find someone who knows how to do it. there are some more info at Estes rockets online that may help you feel more
  19. Scoutmaster elect shows up at council today for a visit with the council and district execs he took a printed out copy of all of his online/email/facebook/+ discussions in full, rather than cut and paste parts when the execs read thru and compared the full print out to things from the district commish and found that district commish cut and pasted things specifically out of context to make them look worse than they really were. council apologized to the scoutmaster elect and approved his application to lead this troop. whooo hoooo I'll see the district Exec at
  20. Something to consider for the first year webelos if they do not come in to the den with some camping experience a daytime camp practice morning. show up at a local park right after breakfast set up camp, set up tents and make sure all of them have all their parts and enough stakes show what you packed do an activity like knots, firestarting(depending on where you are) or play flag football for a belt loop (under sportsman) have the boys cook a small lunch where they get to see about the equipment you have, and how the campstove works with supervision, eat together then
  21. Yes, break it into parts do a little bit, have the DC show how he packs for an overnight campout where he's goin to hike in and camp practice how to put up tents we do try to put up tents twice before going camping, once in the daylight and once in the dark by lantern light. or one time inside a large room and one time outside. We always tend to show up to campouts in the dark and the kids need to be able to put up tents by lantern light. if you are hiking a mile the first time be prepared for adults to have to carry the tents, or break the tent and the tent poles so 2 separat
  22. oh and for the show how to pack it and carry it there are many options and it's going to change based on where you are going and if they have to carry it to the campsite. we usually do a 1 nighter at a council camp the summer they first become webelos. for that camp, they have to carry their gear to camp for almost a mile we have a shake down check ahead of time the boys bring their stuff and are expected to get it all into a backpack to carry to camp. we show them how to put clothes in large ziplock bags in case of rain (and smush all the air out if you need more room in y
  23. Webelos book has an overview of what you need for an overnight campout on page 352 in the one I have in front of me. some variation of wear Uniform Hiking Boots or sturdy tennies Webelos Book Water bottle or water backpack small personal First Aid Kit ( or a couple of bandaids) Flashlight with fresh batteries Sunscreen if needed Pocketknife with whittling chip card Trail Mix or other trail snack food (or have them keep with den food--not in tents) Map/Compass (this one you probably won't have depending on where you are going) Bug Spray if needed Rain Gear if suspec
  24. Let's see, what did SM elect say? he said the president lacked testicular fortitude in regards to speaking out about the Ground zero mosque he laughed that someone else called the vice pres- Joe Bite me he said a local sheriff was an utmost disgrace and doesn't understand free speech he said something about Marxist Democrats using the Tucson shooting to take away more of our freedoms (gun control discussion) and a godless Democratic party several quotes are totally edited for content with words deleted to make them sound worse than they are. Part of a sentence
  25. well no news went out to dinner for my birthday instead of spending all evening on the phone. I don't wanna have to go to council to deal with this. boo hoo sigh
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