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Oh and when our pack was planning our first rocket launch day we looked for rockets, and realized that the ones on scoutstuff.org are estes model rockets that those NAMES of rockets are being discontinued, but the shape/design/size of the rocket was still around most likely in a different color. so we bought a sample rocket at Michael's locally with their coupon in the paper for 40% off one item, put it together checking out how long, how detailed, what supplies, and how to make it so even the youngest scouts could do PART of the work. then put it together, bought a small pack of rocket e

yes, storming the council office is a possiblity on my schedule for friday. This is Wednesday night, tomorrow is Thursday. I did not know more than rumors before Tuesday. District and Council Execs are not answering phones about this issue right now. My complaints have been sent to them by email Tuesday. the big meeting is within the troop as each party that has been notified shares what info they've been given by council and make sure they all have the same information and are not missing something. This will include existing scoutmaster, CC, COR, IH(I think, not sure), an

http://scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ItemDetail.aspx?cat=01CLO&ctgy=PRODUCTS&c2=CL_CRAFTS&C3=&C4=&LV=2&item=179WRK&prodid=179WRK^8^01CLO& we bought this rocket kit set last um, May for the pack enough of them for the whole pack. if they participated in the spring fundraiser, they got a rocket for free, otherwise we charged a little something for them. we got a couple of the controllers and a boatload of engines each den spent a meeting putting together rockets, very easy to do with parent help. we didn't have enough launch pads so we mad

We just use snack size ziplock bags from the dollar store for small award sets and sandwich bags for when a scout gets a bit carried away. we also staple the belt loops to the back of the award cards, and put all pins thru award cards whenever possible so everything is labeled and ready to go.

Well I was asked by the troop COR to sit tight until thursday until they'd have a big meeting and let me know what happens next between them and council reps. So I wait. I should to invite Scout exec to blue and gold but I'm sitting on that too. At the moment the best option is to force "them" to admit that there is no way to be a member of a company, the rules don't say you have to be an employee, but you can certainly be a member of that company's scout support committee and be chosen as COR to represent that company as a Chartering organization. so the COR retains his jo

yeah Eagle I really can't figure it out. It's not ever been claimed to be a youth protection issue. I'm worried that it's somehow going to get escalated to a remove the membership of the scoutmaster elect for what amounts to unsubstantiated slander against his character. I'm trying to wrap my mind around why noone at council should be buying into this witch hunt or vendetta, but they are. Of course there is always more to a story, there could be evidence that the troop committee was not provided--but why keep that kind of info a secret when it would quiet down all the unrest if

The DC is really he DC and he has a voice of persuasion, having worked in radio will do that for a person I guess. He can be a smooth talker and he's talked his way into getting a few people on his side at district/council level it appears. I tried to warn the CC/COR of the troop to contact the DE and Council themselves ahead of time, but they thought once the TC voted AGAIN to retain said person as scoutmaster, that as they say would have been that. So I will imagine that DE and anyone at council were blindsided by this and perhaps they may be convinced that the DC is trying to h

I am not COR of the Troop in question I am COR of the local Pack there is not the same chartered org for each of these units. just to clear up any further confusion. if council persons want to push the COR has to be member thing 4 units will not have COR's that I know of right now, including my own. what happens if your COR is removed? I'm gastly afraid that if the COR is removed and council puts this District Commissioner in his place, the troop that has been in existence for 85 years will fold as people flee like crazy. That would be BAD.

This is two different units. my pack chartered by the parents of.... is ok. But a little concerned that "council" is saying that COR has to be a member of the chartered org, citing the link on the scouting.org link I posted. I'm IH and COR, used to be CC too of my pack. Parents at one time elected me to all those positions, and I've been backing my way out of each of those jobs over time so by the time my younger son is in the troop I'll be just about done. I'll pass it off sooner if I have to. my older son's troop is the one with the complaining parent, who is also a dis

Well I'm a COR that could be effected by this as fall out if Council decides to force this issue, as I'm COR and my son won't be a member of our parent chartered pack once he crosses over to the troop. Well, unless they make me an honorary parent of the pack, to make me an official "member" which is just silly paperwork pushing IMHO I'm only holding the title for a year more until we can get someone else experienced/trained/knowledgeable/committeed enough to take the job-- most likely cubmaster or committee chair will take the job and find a replacement for their job and train them in th

I can find this http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/CubScouts/AboutCubScouts/ThePack/chorr.aspx says Is a member of the chartered organization other than the unit leader or assistant unit leader but that is cub packs and doesn't say the same thing as the other more "formal" documents say, does it?

Does the Chartered Organization Representative have to be a member of the Chartering Organization? Or can the Institution Head/Executive Officer of the Chartering Organization choose someone else as COR say a scouter with a boy in the unit, but who isn't a member of the Organization? I need chapter and verse from BSA policy and procedure requirements. I see it on scouting.org under description title "Is a member of the chartered organization other than the unit leader or assistant unit leader. Is appointed by the chartered organization to serve as its official Scouting representativ

All national has to do is change the wording of the box the dr signs _______ the scout in question is deemed reasonably phycially fit to participate in basic outdoor activities, hikes and overnight campouts including a 1 week summer camp where medical care is readily available. there could be those little check mark places or places for the dr to initial however many of the things the BSA wants checked off [swimming, hiking, backpacking or whatever they want on there] then have another line that says Part D medical clearance, with a spot for the dr to sign _______that says the sco

If you bring them into your meetings, they probably will never feel they HAVE to find their own leader, they will figure if you can have 14 wolves for a couple weeks, you can have 14 wolves for the rest of the year. so keep that in mind before you make these plans. That said, the right thing to do is for cubmaster, assistant cubmaster, yourself and your assistant to invite all the wolves over and get them goin on their derby cars and find out what's going on, with everyone there, and see if they can get a den leader and assistant going at this point. did that den have an assistant d

Well I would remind you that the Webelos 2's have until they are done with 5th grade, or 11.5 to remain in the cub scout pack. that if they are 11 years old, they can join a troop even if they haven't completed the arrow of light and that may be what they want, biding their time until that happens. Blue and Gold does not have to be the end of their scouting time. Of course, my Webelos 2's are not crossing over at blue and gold. they will get a short ceremony for their arrow of light badge at blue and gold. They will receive arrows for those who earned arrow of light, and bridge to boy

Our troop has been chartered for 82 years. so when the flag gets full of ribbons and it just seems like too much and ribbons start to get tattered and torn up, they take off a set of ribbons and hang them up in the meeting room to make room for new ribbons. That seems like a reasonable thing to do, find a place to store the oldest ones and show off the newest ones, you'd have to determine how many ribbons look ok on the flag a certain number or a year or two's worth or more.

If you have somewhere with an indoor parking garage, go there on a weekend and pick up trash. Or the school grounds, park or other places where the kids have tromped thru the snow and there may be something on the ground to pick up.

QUOTE from Seattle Pioneer: "I think I'd either cross out the parts the Doc needn't consider or ask the Doc to cross out portions he can't approve in whatever way he wants to do it." But will the dr cross out lines on a form and sign it? Should the dr have to do so? I think Part D should be a copy of Part C with the meets height and weight thingy, and the doesn't have seizures and all the rest for high adventure stuff only. Part C should stay as it is, without the Dr having to swear that you meet the high adventure requirements, that don't belong on that form to use at "regular

We go back and forth between using the premade driver's licenses from the scout shop and making out own from various places. you can make some here http://bighugelabs.com/badge.php with bar codes and such but it's a lot of work for a big pack.

looking closer at the forms there really isn't a part D form, it's part D words/explanation of what high adventure is and then says they need to have the dr sign part C that they meet the height and weight chart requirements. I think they are trying to have one form do too much completely and medical drs are going to be too confused to figure this out. parents fill out part A&B, and it asks for info about last A1C test, last seizure, last asthma attack, and cpap machines and oxygen. A regular scouter looking at this info, doesn't need to know the date of the last A1C test cause

if the FAQ said this Part C is the physical exam that is required for participants in any event that exceeds 72 consecutive hours for all high-adventure base participants, or when the nature of the activity is strenuous and demanding. That would make sense for what the Part C form actually says. Realistically for a scout going even to summer camp for a week where they are not going hardly off the camp and are sitting around doing merit badges all week, Part A&B would be sufficient medical information, you know their allergies, their medicines, and their important contact info

I'm all for limiting weight to under 300 lbs if it's somewhere backwoods that you have to haul someone out on a stretcher for miles. yeah, 2 adults and a handful of kids is still going to have difficulty moving you. the faq says basically that kind of backwoods stuff is when you need to meet the height and weight requirement. and then BSA goes and puts height and weight as a requirement for the dr's signature for any over 72 hour camp. so take Webelos to Webelos Encampment, where they don't go off the BSA camp area, they don't do anything that could be a stretch of health or

well you will probably end up chasing some beads. boys plus beads = someone invariably tips the can or drops their string and they go everywhere. if you take the length of bead string with beads on it, and put the string thru the last bead, loop it around and put it back thru the string again, that should hold the beads in place. if you leave that loop, and then add the new beads, and loop them, if they drop he string, you'll only lose the couple of beads you just added. if that makes any sense. you'll just need lots longer string than you think you would need to do all the loops.

We just make large folded over signs to stick on tables to designate check in cars placed on table by den judge's table and pit area then we have some checkered flag that we rope off the area that people can't enter without permission. and the webelos 2's sell pizza and sodas to the families while they watch the race as a fundraiser for their first year of going to scout camp.

Could the doctor strike out the part about meeting height and weight and then go ahead and sign it? I guess the Dr. could do so. But doesn't that just drive home the point that the form is WRONG??? Shouldn't the form have that as an option, rather than the dr's declaration that is non-negotiable? Why does the FAQ state that the height and medical is not necessary for cub scout camps and most BSA camps, but that part C is still required for those outings--yet the form itself leave the dr no room for wiggle. There doesn't even have to be that line in the dr's signature or any