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  1. BSA has, of course, used the title Scouting for its magazine for adults in Scouting - Scouts, Cubs, Explorers (co-ed for decades), Sea Scouts (co-ed for years) - for generations.  THus, BSA has used "Scouting"" in connection withmagazine for a co-ed program without objection by GSA for many years, precluding a valid claim of  intellectual property inflincement.  

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  2. I am using BLM representatives' language, although you are cortrect that it is "loaded."  But if unpleasant but relevant reality is not allowed, I will certianly desist from posting it.  Private forum.    Your rules.  


    "The Chicago Black Lives Matter organizer who justified looting as ''reparationhas doubled down — insisting this week that even calling someone a criminal is 'based on racism.'

    Ariel Atkins told WBEZ that her group [Black LIves Matter Chicago] '100 percent' supports the violent looters who trashed chunks of the Windy City Monday, again repeating her claim that it is 'reparations.'

    'The whole idea of criminality is based on racism anyway,' she told the NPR station.

    'Because criminality is punishing people for things that they have needed to do to survive or just the way that society has affected them with white supremacist BS,' she said.

    'I will support the looters till the end of the day. If that’s what they need to do in order to eat, then that’s what you’ve got to do to eat,' she said of those who even tried to smash their way into a Ronald McDonald House caring for sick children and their families.

    Atkins dismissed the idea that civil rights had 'ever gotten wins' from 'peaceful protests.'

    'Winning has come through revolts. Winning has come through riots,”'she said.."








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  3. On 6/27/2020 at 7:06 PM, cocomax said:

    I wonder why BSA did not include the phrase "we believe Black Lives Matter" in this statement? 

    They kept  "black families and the black community" in lower case, but placed "Law Enforcement Exploring" in caps.




    Perhaps because Black Lives Matter is an avoidly Marxlist political organization that advocates abolition of law enforcement, criminal laws, courts, and places of incarceration, at least for "persons of color, on the grounds that the concept of "crime" as applied to such persons is inherently racist.  Black Lives Matters has the Motto "ACAB" = all cops are bastar_s.  So BSA is walking back its original "virtue" signal.

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  4. 28 minutes ago, fred8033 said:

    The video was 100% on-topic.  Many people believe the DE&I badge is propaganda and can't be taught constructively without pulling in individuals personal political beliefs.   The video has 100% on-topic discussion topics.  Is race real?  Is it useful to discuss?  Where do the issues start?  How to work with police?

    Removing that video is today's canceling culture and is censorship.

    If you want this badge, we need the ability to discuss and debate the topics in the badge.


    This is a private forum, not the government - or even "public.".  Censorshoip and discrimination does not violate "civil rights."

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  5. 1 hour ago, BamBam said:

    All I can say is just wow. Comments like this is why the merit badge is needed. You choose the views of millionaires to say what is wrong with Black Americans.They are so removed from the plight of everyday Black Americans.  Sorry. That doesn't fly. Attitudes like this is... Nevermind let me keep the rest of my thoughts to myself.

    I woild have liked to see the video to understand your comments..  Which "millionaires"?

  6. Likely, BSA has no more idea what they mean by "intersectionality" than it knows the difference between the Marxist, anti-capitalism, abolish the police , laws, jails, and courts political party Black Lives Matter and  the concept that "black lives matter."   It just sounds "woke. to folks in a panic to seem "woke."

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  7. "(CNN)In a statement released in support of Black Lives Matter, the Boy Scouts of America said it will require Eagle Scouts to earn a diversity and inclusion badge. It'll examine its own role in perpetuating racism, too.

    The organization, which also condemned the deaths of George FloydAhmaud Arbery and Breonna Taylor, said it "has not been as brave as we should have been" when it comes to calling out racism.


    "The Boy Scouts of America stands with Black families and the Black community because we believe that Black Lives Matter," the organization said in a letter on Scoutingwire, the organization's official blog. "This is not a political issue; it is a human rights issue and one we all have a duty to address."


    Now, scouts must earn a diversity and inclusion merit badge to achieve the rank of Eagle Scout, the highest rank in the Boy Scouts program. The new badge will build on existing programs that require scouts to "engage with other groups and cultures."



  8. 2 hours ago, Navybone said:

    But that is exactly why this is an important opportunity.  What should a scout do if he/she meets someone who is gay (and they will)? Ignore them, pretend they do not exist?   Pick on them, bully them?  Or maybe accept them as a person with a different view.  This is not about changing anyone’s mind, it’s accepting people for being different than them.  

    So long as they are "different" in a policitcally correct way?  

     I propose that one be polite to everyone.  IS he or she "one"?  Be polite.  No mpore "education" required. 

    Of course that;s naive.  It's impolite to shake hands or eat with the left hand to a traditional Muslim., or to look at their daughter's bare ankles.  Being reprectful turns out to be darned hard in a homogenious society.  I have an Ohio American Flag license plate and my car got keyed with a lrge "PIG" Wednesday in a parking lot.  Perhaps I made someone feel unsafe.  I shudder to think a sticker supprting my son who's a State cop would bring.  After all, "ACAB."

    No "edit" link.

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  9. On 7/17/2020 at 2:55 PM, Navybone said:

    Where are you seeing BLM advocating replacing our system over government?  I just  looked all through their site and do not see anything about a revolution or changing any of the principle documents of government.  Do they think that there is a significant racism issue in this country, yes.  But I do not see them pushing for a new constitution, maybe just ensuring they get the rights that the constitution affords them.  You cannot legislate away racism.  

    "We are Marxists"


    If we don't get what we want, "burn it down."



  10. On 7/16/2020 at 11:49 PM, MattR said:

    Someone made one mistake and it was pulled down. That doesn't sound like much of a trend to worry about. However, if they had, for example, lied 20000 times in 4 years, then you'd have something to talk about.

    Someone lied 20,000 times in four years., "Moderator."  Are you thinking of Kevin Trudeau?  He's still in prison.

  11. On 7/13/2020 at 1:38 AM, David CO said:

    Yes, but you are cherry picking.  Only 5 of the seceding states chose to issue a declaration of causes.  In those 5, it was clearly stated that they had other causes in addition to slavery.  Texas, for example, pointed out that if they did not secede, they would no longer be contiguous with the rest of the United States (because all of their border states had already seceded).  They would have been forced go to war with with an enemy army that could easily surround them.  This was a very serious issue in the Texas secession debates, as you might well imagine.

    Likewise, some Southern states voted to not secede.  This wasn't because they were unsympathetic to the rebel cause.  They were on the border with Northern states, and knew they couldn't hold out against the federal army.   


    And Texas bordered The New Mexiso Territory and the Indian Territory - of th United States.  A minority of their border was with Arkansas and Louisiana., and Texas left BEFORE Arkansas.

    "DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861
    A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union.


    She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery--the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits--a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slave-holding States of the confederacy. Those ties have been strengthened by association. But what has been the course of the government of the United States, and of the people and authorities of the non-slave-holding States, since our connection with them?

    The controlling majority of the Federal Government, under various pretences and disguises, has so administered the same as to exclude the citizens of the Southern States, unless under odious and unconstitutional restrictions, from all the immense territory owned in common by all the States on the Pacific Ocean, for the avowed purpose of acquiring sufficient power in the common government to use it as a means of destroying the institutions of Texas and her sister slave-holding States.

    By the disloyalty of the Northern States and their citizens and the imbecility of the Federal Government, infamous combinations of incendiaries and outlaws have been permitted in those States and the common territory of Kansas to trample upon the federal laws, to war upon the lives and property of Southern citizens in that territory, and finally, by violence and mob law, to usurp the possession of the same as exclusively the property of the Northern States."


  12. On 7/12/2020 at 9:25 PM, Navybone said:

    There are 17 different items BLM is supporting In their mission.  You have identified one and disparage the rest of the organization and their goals for that?  And it does NOT call for the destruction of the family, rather it calls for recognition that extended families and villages have a significant pace in today’s society.  Do we not want equality under law for all Americans, regardless of race?  Do we not understand that a significant portion of our population is disenfranchised and there is room and opportunity to heal the Division that occurs.  

    And for Duckworth, her comments are for being willing to having a dialogue.  Do we not want open discussion and debate?  Are we so closed minded?  Cultural Marxism is a new-con wet- dream to encourage right wing conservative government, not an engaged government willing to talk to the people, and understand their concerns. 

    what are you listening to?  

    I am listening to SBLM.  And some of their goals are fine.  But far more than one is abhorent.  I would be happy toilist them.

  13. On 7/12/2020 at 10:53 PM, David CO said:

    Now look who is engaging in historical revisionism.  

    Actually, it's reality.  Anyone could quoite pages and pages of statements by every rebel state and every Coinfederate cabinet member that it was all about slavery.    Anyone who can use Goiogle can find them.   My Grandmother was National Commander of the Daughters of the Confederacy and National Chairperson of the drive to raise funds to buld a Jefferson Davis Monumnent nto match the Washington Monument (in Davis' home town in Kentucky - the lesser monument actually built still stands)., so I heard THAT side over and over.  But I also read the contemporary newspapers and books written by rebel leaders.  


    "Our doctrine is this: WE ARE FIGHTING FOR INDEPENDENCE THAT OUR GREAT AND NECESSARY DOMESTIC INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY SHALL BE PRESERVED, and for the preservation of other institutions of which slavery is the groundwork."

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