Sturgen

My troop has only sold popcorn once, and never again, for the time and energy put into it the profit turnover is too low. Instead we hold an annual spaghetti dinner, donations accepted but not required, we normally make about $500 there, and of course it is a wonderful, although frightening, leadership project for a 14 or 15 yr old, coincidently my first major leadership project as a youth. There is no reason a similar project couldnt be done multiple times a year. We also are fortunate enough to have our SMs step daughter being a relatively well known sculptor. She donates several statues to

Most lodges have two or more ordeals each year, my lodge has three in the fall and one or two in the spring, even if the requirements states that only half the boys in the troop may attend an ordeal, I can see the reasoning behind this. Also depending on if this rule is a national or lodge regulation you could most likely simply convince the advisor or chief to allow all the boys to attend, considering that you have such a small troop, and just keep them relatively separated from one another.

We all know what city wheeler lives in. We all know that he spends a substantial amount of time in a library in relative proximity to a scout office of some sort or another. I propose an angry mob; its the time-tested system of getting rid of monsters. In my experience torches, farm tools, and clubs work best.

To my understanding a girl under 16 cannot be part of a staff because they cannot be a member of the BSA. I am not saying that a 16 or 17 year-old girl is not capable of working on a camp staff, more as to what FOG was getting at. As to why camps are looking for outsiders, at least it has been my experience that the council treats its temporary camp employees so poorly that it forces a high turnover, those who stay are able to put up with the BS for the sake of the boys and a love for the camp. You can only turn over so many individuals before you are forced to draw from an outside population

Since my first little opinion post caused such a heated debate I thought I would put this one forth: Ought Boy Scout resident camps hire female junior staffers (under 18)? It has been my experience that this causes nothing but trouble, no matter how strict regulations and supervision is relationships form and kids sneak off into the woods for some reason or another. As far as I am concerned for senior staff this is just a part of life and being legal responsible for themselves I see no reason to restrict the hiring of female senior staff dramatically, although romantic relations should be

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I am aware that BSA does not permit the use of pistols in the program, outside of Venturing, and I can understand in part the reasoning behind this. However, part of scouting is teaching boys how to survive and an unfortunate fact in todays world is that there may be a time that basic use of a hand gun may be critical to saving a life. Since I could walk I have been trained to use weapons, ranging from BB-guns to .30-06 and .54 cal rifles and .40 and .44mag hand guns. I am fortunate enough to have been trained by retired Air Force, retired Marine, Police Officers and Federal Range Masters.

Wasnt it a .44 mag, not a .357 mag that can make [or break] my day

Jabeezees Batman, I was just being cynical and this turned into a huge list, I was simply trying to mimic wheeler, the point was lost I guess, time for me to go off and cry myself to sleep. For any of you interested on a comprehensive view of the almighty Sam Clemens in regards of religion check out The Bible According to Mark Twain edited by Baetzhold and McCullough. I have just started reading it but so far it is wonderful.

I have a feeling that you are going to have about as much luck finding a detailed structure tree as you are getting a detailed national or council budget.

Yeah, thats exactly what Im getting at, at least in my part of the world some of those institutions are better than my old dorm room.

Aristotle is much more smarter than you and I Mes think he done gone to grammar skooling. When was Aristotle reborn, I thought he was dead? Sorry I couldnt resist.

I see you kind of forgot to mention your source, oh, wait, here it is, Al Jazeerah, not a real reliable source of information if I do say so myself. I prefer to read news not propaganda. Al Jazeerah's like Michael Moores Bowling for Columbine, you could watch (or read) for two hours and maybe find a few facts, but those are so buried in horse manure that you need a backhoe to find them. Operation Enduring Misery; the Afghanistan Debacle By Mike Whitney Al Jazeerah Feb 20 2004 1:30AM GMT

Since quotes are becoming more important then wisdom around here, thought I would quote a man I consider one of the wisest in American literature. A statesman gains little by the arbitrary exercise of ironclad authority upon all occasions that offer, for this wounds the just pride of his subordinates, and thus tends to undermine his strength. A little concession, now and then, where it can do no harm is the wiser policy. - A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court You ought never to "sass" old people- unless they "sass" you first. - Advice for Good Little Girls It is wron

A guy walked into a bar, and said ouch.

Sounds a lot like a camp ranger we used to have, he would also schedule groups off the council books to stay at the camp and pocket the cash. He pulled that off for five years i think. Youve got to love it when council starts axing the innocent. Two years in a row this has happened at my camp, the first time if the Camp Director (the axed one) hadnt begged us to stay, the entire senior staff would have walked. The second time they refused to fire a senior staffer who was in constant violation of BSA policy on a firing range, but instead fired one of the senior staffers whos father went to t

Hail Comrades, may I suggest going to http://www.scouting2007.org, there you can sign up to receive emails in regards to the world jambo.

My main concern is that most of his planning has basically been working with the organization and finding out what they want, he as yet to look at supplies, samples, or done any of the pricing. If that had already been done I would have no concerns, he could definitely finish the project then. Its looking like my brother, who is also working on his eagle project, will end up giving him a hand.

We just had a life scout in our troop break his back, he was in the process of planning his eagle project and now for obvious reasons he may have to change his project a bit, any suggestions on potential projects, most likely he will hand over the organization he is working with right now to another older scout, so that he may have a project less physically labor intensive for the leader. He was going to be doing construction of heavy tables and bike racks out of steel and 4x4s for a local low income housing units run by a non-prof. Seeing as he will most likely be on bedrest for quite a while

It's difficult for me to believe that someone could be "recruited" to homosexual activity if they are not oriented toward it. For the sake of anonymity of friends and acquaintances I would prefer to not get into details; however I know at least 6, possibly as many as 10 individuals who have been as you say recruited to homosexuality/bisexuality. This occurred at a camp, with a predominantly female staff in the western United States. One of the individuals who worked there, although not out of the closet, was gay. This last summer several others began homosexual relationships of one natu

If you havent noticed I try to use science, not the bible to argue facts. Heres a scientific argument for you. Sex is a means of reproduction, in fact until the last decade or so it was the only means of reproduction for all primates, and the vast majority of animals, depending on how you define sex. Homosexual sex does not, nor can it ever bring about reproduction, it is biologically impossible. In regards to your comment that victorious armies no longer rape their opponents, you obviously have never studied the Middle East, South Africa, or any other modern areas of comment, although the mil

Im so sorry for the groups ignorance. I suppose most of us are to busy with work, education, scouting, family, church, etc to sit down and read for 12 hours a day. It really is shameful, I personally am beating myself with a coup stick as I type to punish myself for not dedicating my life to books written by dead guys. I must halt all of my attempts to become a better human being and become a quote-a-matic 3000. Must memorize Plato. Must memorize Socrates.

I would like to make a suggestion. For the most part we all seem to believe that evolution exists to some extent or another, or at least we agree that philosophy does not disprove evolution in any way. You can always convince, debate or educate a fool. However it is impossible to educate a mad man. Wheelers posts are all carbon copies of one another stating the same basic points, however providing no evidence, while several others have provided evidence through links to universities and academic associations. Let us allow the mad man to ramble on henceforth. It shall do no harm, and there

Wheeler here is where you show your faults: In your first thread you state Evolution says dirt, which is dead produced life. How can something dead produce something living? However you later state God made a form from the mud mud is the same thing as wet dirt I do hope you realize. You also state that All men are reproductions of this first man. We have differentiated into races but we are all created. If you are ignorant enough to believe this to be true so be it, however you have just presented some great evidence that evolution exists. If we are all reproductions of the first man