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Steppenwolf, Moody Blues, Harry Connnick, Tennesee Earnie Ford, Tex Ritter, Frankie Lane, Beetoven, Tchakovski (sp), Beetles, Monkees, Grateful Dead, Jim Morrison, Maynard Ferguson, Ironhead, BB King, aw heck, I just like music. yis

My understanding of the law prevents you as a non-native american from owning, wearing or utilizing any part of the eagle and many other protected birds up to and including in some areas the bluejay. To create an appropriate costume,consider researching a local or favorite tribe and match as close as possible historic infofrmation. As a Runner in the Tribe of Mic-O-say, I wear a deerhair and porcupine roach, leggings, linen shirt, breastplate, buckskin loincloth, possibles bag, choker, rattle and shield. All is made without using proscribed items. Feathers are either turkey, pheasant, goose and other game birds. Some of the feathers are imitation and are very close to the real thing. You get what you pay for when it comes to imitations. Rattle is made from a cowhorm and brass hanes tip, stained with natural coloration. Some of my costume is made from copper cable, an idea from a plains tribe picture that I found that showed them using telegraph wire for decoration. Shield is made from rawhide and is painted with researched symbols. The costuming of some tribal members is very extensive. Fancy beading, and lot of it is based on the actual items found in museums and seen as various pow wows. Just let your imagination go and pick a tribe to emulate or pick items from different tribes that you like. Also remember a costume is never, never done just in constant change. yis

First off, thanks to all who have put their two cents into this campfire about LDS scouting. I have little first hand exposure it and appreciate the information listed. Good information allows proper responses and prevents misconceptions (usually). Thanks again. CR14 and other new posters, welcome to the campfire. Sometimes we stay the straight and narrow sometimes we stray. Signs of a good conversation found around a good fire among good people. yis

Try the ol' geezers cookbook. Great recipes. Any search on the web for dutch oven recipes will give you many sites to surf. yis

Condolances and good thoughts to you and Scots family and friends. ' it is not what you gather in goods that makes you rich, but what you have done for others..' yis

We tend to be a liitle loose with the SM minute. If I have somithing that I wish to use I bring it up to the SM and go from there. yis

Ditto with all of the above posts. SNAFU happens. Let them learn, but monitor the boundaries. yis

A couple come to mind. What merit badge did you get the most out of? Why? What merit badge did you not feel like you really earned? Why? What has Scouting meant to you and how has it changed you? Of course the more mature the Scout the more enlightening the last question can be. yis

So many choices so few overnights. First our troop bans hot dogs, hamburgers, quick food, etc. The boys must cook! Many favorites but a couple that that I like to do and never had to clean a pot afterwords: Chili Three bean and three meat. Three types of beans ( your choice) three meats ( hot sausage, brats ( or equivalent) and ham) amounts depend on how many and how hungry. Home canned tomatoes, onion, small cut potato,half can sweet corn, season to your taste,half green pepper, hot peppers to taste. ( dried garden jalapenos or store bought) Cook down to little liquid three times adding liquid from bean cans or water. After third time add some fluid and coat top with corn bread mix and bake cornbread. For breakfast, Brown hot sausage, and any other meat you wish, remove, leaving grease (bad word?) behind. Put potatoes ( very small/thin slices) in grease and cook till almost done. Re-add sausage, eggs, cheese, rest of green pepper, rest of corn, and anything else you have handy to add or want to. Once mostly firm add cornmeal on top and bake. These are one dutch oven meals and are easy to do. bon apetit (sp) yis

After reading the recent threads I thought I might try something important to camping scouters everywhere. Give em up and lead us to a new level of cooking! yis

Exposure to tools and their proper uses is a key part of camping. Teaching scouts how to use axes, bow saws, knifes, dutch ovens, fires, and all the other miriad (sp?) aspects of outdoor camping is a part of what we do on overnights. If a scout is not introduced properly to these things they are apt to use them improperly. Note the threads on stoves, etc. Sheath knifes are just as safe as folding when used properly and that safety must be taught. Just as range safety and firearm safety must be taught. Teach them all we can and how to use them safely and they will be the better for it. yis ps. my favorite knifes are a folder for small stuff, but my old military sheath knife for everything else. Also gives me the chance to teach the boys how to sharpen the knifes they use. pps 'Rambos' are not allowed

Planning to put the merit badges that I counsel on the day pack that I carry to meetings. One reason to let the boys know which I counsel and the other to remind me of the ones I counsel. yis

Used to be a beaver...'If it is not for the boys, it is not worth a dam' yis

might be time to bring this one back up. yis

Ditto with Matua and Lv. yis

Welcome to the campfire. OOH boy. 'Get over it' and 'not allowed' raised my hackles. I am not as trained or as knowlegable as many on this forum, but, ...red flags went up as I read the posting. This "leader" if part of the leaders I am with would not have to deal with the scout but myself.(if what has been posted is the complete story) Ditto with Scoutldr as to proper protocol. And watch this forum for more input. please keep us informed. yis ps: are you a registered adult?

Deep breath Program and retention. These two go hand in hand,if you have a good, exciting program you will retain the scouts. Pulled out an old scout roster recently and was stunned to realize that close to half of the boys had made Eagle. Did not realize that we had done something right.(?) We did not have a Eagle factory or even an emphasis on Eagle, just tried to make sure there was fun for the boys. Lots of basic scouting, camping, cooking, orienteering, survival, basic stuff, the boys ate it up. Add in high adventure geared to the different age and skill levels and they stayed. I know troops are boy led, but it is the adult leadership and example that points the direction. If the adults are excited and involved then the boys pick up on that and take that involvement to new heights. We are not OA, but Mic-O-Say, and that may be part of our retention. Many scouts stay because they wish to advance in MOS. (history, tradition? My boys are third generation MOS,I and my boys are Runners, Dad and brothers are Tribal Coucnil) But we do keep them. Example, our local summer camp is Camp Geiger and to be on staff one must either be Eagle or so close it doesn't matter. Scouts who are Eagle are turned down because there are not enough openings. Make it fun and have fun yourself and be supprised as to what will happen. Boys expect the outdoors and the skills associated with them, teach and lead them and they will perform. Have a coffee cup from the 1980 that indicates that 4% will reach Eagle, but 62 others will take scouting skills and experiences into their lifes and use them. Not bad, not bad... yis

Thoughts and prayers to you and yours. yis

KS.... no words can say. Prayers and thoughts are small things when loss occurs, but they are what can be done with the hope that no more are lost. Hops, thanks. yis

To make a young man choose between scouting and sports is, IMHO, wrong. That said, explanation, if a young man chooses sports without scouting he will in all possibility grow up to a fine example from what he has learned. But without the scouting experience. Provide the opportunity to the young man to enjoy both and then he will have the best of both worlds and have the background that scouting can provide. Have had several scouts over the years that did both. One in particular is going to a military academy soon and scouting is/was a major part of his choice. Scouting in todays enviroment has to be flexible. yis

forgot to add.... Thank You! 101 Airborne yis

Well said Hops. Ditto to your thoughts. yis

Welcome to the campfire. Not sure that as a group we are making BSA an Eagle factory. What we hear are the relative exceptions and odd stories that are out there. Seldom are mentioned the thousands of others that fit the 'expected' regimen and quietly go one to great things in their lives. One thing to remember as a scout leader is that 'some Eagles soar, some flap'. All we an do is the best we can in any given situation and hope it is enough. Scouting is an unique experience and many boys take things from scouting to the rest of their lives that they do not fully realize until years have passed. This includes the 'soarers and flappers'. Welcome again. yis

IMHO, the "basic" scout skills of knots, camping, cooking and survival skills is not so much preparing the scout for these situations but to increase the scouts confidence that they can handle adversity and change. Many scouts do not have situations that allow them to stretch their abilities in these directions and to watch them gain confidence and skill is one of the 'true returns' we as leaders recieve. These skills help prepare them for their lives and their future. By all means stretch them and prod them to learn these skills and watch how they bloom. yis

Have not had this type of situation come up personally. But ditto with Saltheart and Matuawarrior.