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I'm going to have to follow Bob's lead on this one. Godless little Merlyn goes on the list with Wheeler and the lying canadian. Bang!!! I've hit the reprobate begone button!!!

Yep, looks like this Turtledove fellow stole my thunder, in many volumes. Oh Well, back to work tomorrow.

No, I've never read Turtledove's book, but I might now, and also book FOGuy mentioned. The Soviet Union doesn't get invaded in 1940. There is no growing Soviet threat, because their collectives never produce at subsistence levels and to create a huge amount of defense (offensive) spending without the threat of total destruction would have bankrupted them 50 years sooner than they actually went under. Without the British colonizing the Middle East after WWI, there would never be a Saddam Hussein. The CSA is independent of the need for Arab oil. They have Texas, Louisiana, The Gulf of Mexico, a great relationship with Mexico, and Argentina. Sounds like a great novel. I'd have FOG, the first customer reviewer on Amazon.Com flaming my grammar, spelling, word useage, you name it, it would cost me thousands, I'd have to pay my advance back.

Joshua Chamberlain is remembered in the North for his heroic defense of Little Round Top, he was felled by a sharpshooters ball moments before Hill's Texans broke their line. With Confederate cannon atop the little rocky hill, the put withering fire onto the angle. George Picket's Virginians, launched their charge a day earlier than planned, spurred on by the taking of Little Round Top and the fire the Texans brought to bare on their objective. The Virginians broke the Union center and turned right rolling up the Union line forcing them to hurry off of Seminary Ridge and off the field. Lincoln's Treaty at Bethesda saw Lee remove his forces out of Pennsylvania and back into Virginia, leaving Washington untouched. Lincoln was not re-elected. He was defeated by George Maclellan, who was previously fired by Lincoln for his cautious generaling. Lincoln returned to Springfield. He started his law practice once again, championing the cause of the slaves still in bondage and the freedmen. He remained a Republic power broker in the Midwest as his Liberal Republican Party took years to recover from the loss of the War of Succession.

The CSA sent the 29th "Stonewall" Division to France in 1917. They fought gallantly, led by Division Commander, Major General Thomas J. Jackson Jr., they once again proved their mettle under fire as they "held like a stone wall", turning back the German offensive in 1918 as the Canadian lines on their left fell like a house of cards. The Confederate Marine Corps filled the gap in the line, the glistening bayonets followed a banshee like Rebel yell, stopped the Hun in their tracks, and created the term "bug-out" long before 1950. The Confederates still clinging to their agrarian society, unfortunately did not learn all of the lessons of the past. In Flanders Field, their cavalry regiment, including two grandsons of JEB Stuart, sustained over 70% casualties as they charged the Austrian defenses in the world's final horseback cavalry charge. The Maxim machine gun ruled the day.

WWI, The CSA sends troops to aid the Brits, because they lent a hand during their successful seccession. But the numbers are not enough. The USA stays out of it. They sell arms, but never kick Detroit into high gear. There's too many people of German and Irish ancestory in the North to overcome siding with the French and British. The Czar abdicates in 1917. The Soviets sign the treaty with the Kaiser. German and Austrian forces head for the Western Front. The Americans aren't there in enough numbers to go on the massive offensive again. France, Britain, Germany, and Austria-Hungary sign a treaty in 1920. France loses Alcase and Lorraine. Britain cedes some of their empire in Asia and Africa. There is no WWII. Communism doesn't spread. Baseball is what spreads across the continent. Korea doesn't happen. Vietnam doesn't happen. Adolph Hitler, an unemployed rabble-rouser, mouths off to a couple of Jewish construction workers at the Hofbrau Haus in Munchen and is beaten so bad, he spend the remaining years of his short life in a sanitarium for the infirm right outside of Dachau. Slavery is abolished in the South in 1880. President of the CSA George Pickett stated that the plantation owners could pay a prevailing wage, just like the Yankees do in their factories. 99% of the population who didn't own slaves terminated the peculiar institution and the Farm Workers International Union was formed in Mobile.

There was no "enemy" in the Civil War. Lee is viewed as a classic gentleman warrior, the underdog who fought with skill and daring and almost pulled it off. The top Union Commanders were not looked on highly as they were replaced one after the other until Grant appeared and drove the Confederates to surrender by his use of overwhelming numbers and his continous attacking. The individual state's had to vote previously to join the United States. The opinion of the southern state's was that they could also vote to leave the U.S. They voted and the majority of citizens of those states voted to leave. Who knows....if Chamberlain wasn't atop Little Round Top, if Picket had tore down those split rail fences the night before, if JEB Stuart was doing his job correctly...

and Bill Moyer on PBS is even in his "reporting". Not even close. Wolf Blitzer, Dan Rather, Jennings, Brokaw, they're one big liberal talking head. It's a given that you with a liberal bias are sooo much smarter than us mindless robots who watch Fox News. But seeing that I have MTV, CNN, and ABC programmed off my TV, I'll just continue to stay "Locked on FOX". Your atheist friends here hate President Bush, the homosexual crowd hates President Bush, the democrats field candidates like Al Sharpton, Dennis Kucinich, Jesse Jackson, Carol Mosely-Braun, Lyndon LaRouche, who all tally tens of thousands of votes and recieve tens of thousands in matching funds....I'm a Republican. I watch Fox News. I'm going to remain a Republican. I'm going to continue to watch Fox News. I send money to the NRA. I send money to BSA. I give money to my church. I might be outnumbered here, and don't debate very well, (didn't have a debate club in the platoon) but my checkbook's active and you lefties motivate me.

You're one sick twisted puppy!!!

Mt. Pleasant Marine receives Silver Star Marine Corps News Release Date: 5/6/2004 Story by cpl. Luis Agostini MARINE CORPS BASE CAMP PENDLETON, Calif.(May 6, 2004) -- Marine Lance Cpl. Armand E. McCormick, 22, received the Silver Star Medal from the Commandant of the United States Marine Corps, Gen. Michael W. Hagee, during an awards ceremony May 5 at Marine Air Ground Combat Training Center, Twentynine Palms, Calif. McCormick, a Mt. Pleasant, Iowa, native, received the military's third-highest award for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action against the enemy while serving as rifleman for Combined Anti-Armor Platoon, Weapons Company, 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom on March 25, 2003. Three other Marines received medals for valor at the same ceremony. "They are the reflection of the Marine Corps type who's service to the Marine Corps and country is held above their own safety and lives," said Gen. Hagee, commenting on the four Marines who received medals during the ceremony. "I'm proud to be here awarding the second highest and third highest awards for bravery to these great Marines." "These four Marines are a reflection of every Marine and sailor in this great battalion," said Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps, Sgt. Maj. John L. Estrada. Under heavy fire McCormick exhibited exceptional bravery when the lead elements of his battalion were ambushed with mortars, rocket propelled grenades, and squad automatic weapons fire. Fearlessly he drove his lightly armored vehicle directly at an enemy machine gun position and purposely crashed it into an occupied trench line. With the initial breach of the enemy defense now gained for his unit, he sprang from the vehicle and began assaulting the berm and ambush line with two Marines. Taking direct fire, and outnumbered, he pressed forward, firing his M9 pistol at enemy forces. Moving through the trench, he repeatedly came under enemy fire, each time calmly taking well-aimed shots. As the group ran low on ammunition, he collected enemy rifles and a rocket- propelled grenade and continued to press the attack forward several hundred meters. As a follow-on company began to make their entrance into the berm, he returned to his vehicle and backed it out of the trench. McCormick's boldly aggressive actions greatly reduced the enemy's ability to inflict casualties on the rest of his battalion. "It's an honor of course, it is just another day in the Marine Corps," said McCormick. "I ready to go it again and help out with the situation," he said about redeploying to Iraq. Consequently, McCormick will be redeploying to Iraq Friday. "To me I did what I was suppose to do, I did what was expected," he added. Established in 1918, the Silver Star is awarded to a person who is cited for gallantry in action against an enemy of the United States while engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force, or while serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party. The required gallantry, while of a lesser degree than that required for award of the Distinguished Service Cross, must nevertheless have been performed with marked distinction.

I missed this on ABC. Fort Campbell Military Police Unit Honored For Heroism In Iraq (FORT CAMPBELL, Ky., May 12th, 2004, 12:30 p.m.) -- A military police battalion was awarded the Presidential Unit Citation on Wednesday for extraordinary heroism in Iraq, receiving it for the second time in unit history. The award Wednesday for the 716th Military Police Company was especially gratifying to the soldiers because it contrasts news out of Iraq about the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. military police officers at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. "I think you should take this story and put it right over top of the other one," said Terri Dorn, commander of the 194th Military Police Company within the battalion. "There are so many good things that the military police do, so many good things that these soldiers have done and it's kind of sad to have an individual incident happen and it just kind of clouds over all the good things that we've been doing," said Dorn, 32, of Green Bay, Wis. The 716th Military Police Battalion is the only one in Army military police corps history to receive the award, which honors actions that set it apart from others in the same war, said battalion commander Lt. Col. Aston Hayes. The 716th first received the Presidential Unit Citation for its defense of the U.S. Embassy in Saigon, Vietnam, in 1968. The latest award is for its work in southern Iraq while attached to the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force for major combat. It provided security to the Marines, detained prisoners of war and conducted convoy operations. Its force of 1,200 later moved into seven Iraqi cities to rebuild police operations and rebuild infrastructure. "You once again stood up and held your heads high. The 716th knew what it was supposed to do in another one of our nation's wars to earn yourselves a Presidential Unit Citation, the highest award the government has to give," said Marine Col. John Sweeney. "There's no doubt here the every soldier here earned that, and we are thankful for that." Sweeney, chief of staff of the 1st Force Service Support Group, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, spoke at the ceremony Wednesday where award was presented. The 716th was the largest military police battalion in Iraq for major combat. Its partnership with the Marines is believed to be the first time an Army military police battalion was attached to a Marine unit during combat operations, Hayes said. After the Marines returned home, the 716th supported a coalition of Polish and Spanish armies in southern Iraq. On Oct. 17, 716th battalion commander Lt. Col. Kim S. Orlando was killed by hostile fire in Karbala. Hayes was flown to Iraq from Fort Riley, Kan., to take command of the 716th. Combined, the battalion was awarded 27 Purple Hearts to those injured in combat -- including four awarded posthumously to those killed. The unit's history dates to World War II when it helped guard troops and equipment transporting in and out of Jersey City, N.J. Since Vietnam, it has deployed to Grenada, Panama, Kosovo, and Saudi Arabia for the 1991 Persian Gulf War. It is the most decorated military police battalion in the Army.

http://www.redding.com/redd/nw_national/article/0,2232,REDD_17534_2879339,00.html Why isn't the following plastered all over the media? I for one, am way tired of reading about the 1 reserve deserter and 7 misfit guards. ROCHESTER, N.Y. (AP) -- A 29-year-old Marine from upstate New York received the Navy's second highest award last week for charging into enemy trenches during an ambush in Iraq and continuing his attack after depleting his ammunition. Marine Capt. Brian R. Chontosh, of Rochester, N.Y., received the Navy Cross Medal in a ceremony at Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Training Center, Twentynine Palms. The Navy Cross is second only to the Congressional Medal of Honor. "I was just doing my job," said Chontosh, who is married and expecting his first child. "I did the same thing every other Marine would have done." On March 25, 2003, five days into the war, Chontosh led his platoon toward Ad Diwaniyah when the troops came under an ambush of enemy mortars, rocket propelled grenades and automatic weapons, Marine officials said. Chontosh directed his driver into a hail of machine gun fire. His machine gunner returned fire. Then Chontosh ordered the driver into the enemy trench, where he left the vehicle and depleted the ammunition in his service rifle and pistol. He twice picked up discarded enemy rifles and continued his attack, finally firing an enemy rocket propelled grenade launcher. In the end, Chontosh killed more than 20 enemy soldiers and wounded several others. "We're very excited and very proud, obviously very proud of all the young men and women over there and everybody over there," said his father, Rick Chontosh, who flew to San Diego with his wife to attend the ceremony. Brian Chontosh served with the Weapons Company, 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force based in Twentynine Palms. More than 6,000 soldiers have been awarded Navy Cross Medals since World War I.

Beaver, Yaaawwnnnn. I too grow tired of this back and forth. You're posting of the Hersch propaganda and the comments about the 70 year old grandmother were too strong for me to bare. Please don't do it again.

I just need a guess on something. Let's use a normal storage box 18 X 18 X 24 or so. If one was to collect toys, clothes, books, videos and such, how many boxes, or what size of a pile of stuff would approximate one ton?

That's a heck of a stretch, equating this unbecoming female private and her actions with boys in your troop. How you got there, who knows. You can twist and spin all you want, that's on you. Articulate and well-crafted is certainly not a definition of your post. If people critisize Jesse Jackson, than they're a horrible racist; if someone critisizes homos, than must be a homophobe; nothing but worthless blather. Having lived in rural Georgia for several years, I would agree that a nice mobile home would be much more accomodating than many of the corrigated tin and plywood shacks that I drove past.

That's what I was trying to say....

I just loved the story of the home schooled boys who used all the Merit Badges as part of their education. Maybe the kid just really enjoys completing Merit Badges. There's nothing I enjoy more than working with a youth on a Mission. Hops, Hops are you listening???

What's wrong with a 12 year old in over-drive? He's met all the requirements, merit badges, length of time in a position of responsibility, service hours, but is not passed because he lacks maturity and the demonstration of leadership ability. If qualified counselors and his Scoutmaster have signed the blue cards, and he's had his Scoutmaster conference for First Class and Star, and all of a sudden, he's failed for two items that are not part of the advancement requirements, that just doesn't seem fair to me. I don't think I'd sit still for a kid not passing a BOR for requirements that aren't there. What's wrong with motivation?

"Somehow I have my doubts that the 70 year old grandmother who was made to crawl on her hands and knees and be ridden like a donkey was a terrorist." This would be from the same Globe newspaper that published the fake pictures. Incredible.

No need to keep wondering, I don't think very highly of them. But, to you on the extreme left, they're like a Godsend, eh?

I assumed that he means that enlisted personnel are "trailer trash." Yeah, real funny smart guy. Remember when you assume, FOG, well, it's just you. A female soldier making porn movies on the floor of a prison with multiple partners.....trailer trash would be a compliment. There is no comparison on the other. 90% innocent? Are you kidding? You must have the entire Michael Moore DVD collection underneath your pillows. Innocent.

The Nazis killed 6 million Jews & 20 million Russians. Saddam tok videos of blindfolded prisoners being tossed from two story buildings, the taliban hung young mother by the neck from soccer goals. Our guards let us all down, but they didn't kill anyone, heck, they didn't even hurt anyone, they just acted very poorly and made a bunch of murdering terrorist scum play a little naked twister. They should be sent back to their trailer park with a dishonorable discharge and that's all.

"Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise if we didn't fire our muskets 'til we looked them in the eye. We held our fire 'til we see'd their faces well, then we opened up our squirrel guns & really gave 'em WELL...."

"they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles and they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go, They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico"

Nothing but worthless, marxist-lenninist, revisionist propaganda.