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Can Venturers earn the Totin Chip and other awards?
John-in-KC replied to OscarTango's topic in Advancement Resources
The only thing Venturers cannot earn in Crews are: If MALE, T-2-1. The Venturer must be co-chartered in and earn the rank from a Troop. If FEMALE, any participation in Boy Scout Rank Advancement (meaning T-2-1-S-L-E and merit badges). -
There was a note provided by Scoutstuff (Supply Division) that the printed Eagle Application will be no more. You will have to get it online from www.scouting.org or www.nesa.org. Here's the URL: http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/512-728_web.pdf Units get to print and process (in other words, turn into Council) in the same old way ... for now.
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For unit serving Scouters... - What is your read on youth attending Scout camp this year? More, fewer, about the same? - What are you hearing from your parents on their Scouts attending other programs besides Scout camp? More, fewer, about the same? - Are they giving a reason? - Are you hearing any youth say they've earned money, but it's going into the family pot, not for him to be able to go to camp on his own? For folks who work camp staffs, particularly at the Scout Reservation level... - What do you see as your headcount this coming season? More, fewer, about the same? - Are you getting any feedback from the units you serve (program, cost, scheduling)? Thanks to all...
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Welcome to the Depression. I have a friend, a professor at a state university. His school runs a one week music camp as part of the summer program. His registrations are down too. I think many families are making tough choices, and supplemental challenges for their children are below the cut line.
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Read that page as currently structured. It no longer lists requirements. There is nothing in writing from the National Council which gives a Scout/unit serving Scouter/Merit Badge Counselor a place to hang his hat! I was part of the lengthy discussion at both the Scouting and Scouting magazine theads on facebook yesterday about this. I really hope Bill Evans understands his volunteers in the field are not happy about how this has been so superbly rolled out ... NOT.
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Historical Merit Badge program update (... or not)
John-in-KC replied to AlFansome's topic in Advancement Resources
Al, Thanks for the update. Here's the short version: Enthusiastic Scout: "Is it time for youputcha?" SPL: "No, it's not time for youputcha." Enthusiastic Scout: Walks away head down, sad. -
Everything ScoutNut said. Whatever happened to weekly Den meetings? No, do not take time from your youth with a "leaders meeting." Have a den meeting. You, your ADLs, and your Den Chief can have chilidogs together offsite off night. BTW, Mondays are also typically Boy Scout Troop meeting nights. Are you overtaxing any potential Den Chief, who also has HOMEWORK to do? You might want to meet on a Tuesday, if the Troop meets Monday...
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When I got First Aid, there was a group of us who wanted to do it. Mr Wright got us a counselor (a dentist) and we set up group lessons, away from the Troop meeting. It can be done. E92, I'd rather see more and better first aid at S-T-2-1 and toughen the 1st Aid MB requirements. You're from the era behind me, with ####### skill awards and merit badges for T-2-1. Basic skills, advanced skills is my mantra.
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In fact, my youth Cub and Scout uniforms both have a circular San Fernando Valley Council patch on the right pocket. IIRC in the day that was reserved for the Council patch.
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Our OA Coup thong: http://hoac-bsa.org/ae_links/OA_Coup_Forms.pdf Yes, we wear it any Scouting time there is not a neckwear safety issue. The Mic-o-Say coup thong is inside Customs and Traditions, and not available as a web resource. Trust me, the various baubles are similar in nature. Again, we wear it any Scouting time there is not a neckwear safety issue. Yes, HOAC adapts the uniform. Scouters (and Scouts) wear District patches. Scout Executive after Scout Executive, to include David Ross (former CSE) and Jim Terry (current VP BSA and Asst CSE--Internal Operations Group) have worn these coup thongs. So, I'm operating within sanctioned practice of my Council Does that answer your question?
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Our District proudly wears our District patch!
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The best end-of-school year program I saw for a Pack was a family campfire and dessert night. The pack celebrated each kid moving up, and starting into the next rank advancement system (just in time for day camp and Webelos Camp). Local Scout honor societies provided youth in regalia to support the event. Young people like being in the spotlight. Help them along... What you call it matters not; the concept is Cubs are moving along the journey of their lives.
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ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG IN RUNNING A UNIT-RUN ROUNDUP Go for it!!! Recommendations: 1) Talk with your Principal. Do it early. Get some serious space, perhaps even enough to have your full Pinewood Derby track! 2) See if your Principal will let you do a recruitment as part of back-to-school night. 3) If your Principal says yes, go all out. Encourage all Cubs and Scouters to attend school in uniform! Get each Den to do something fun ... Pinewood, dutch oven cookery, games on the playground, and if the Principal does something like an Ice Cream Social on back to school night, volunteer to be the labor force!!! This is one of the times for the Garfield era (1999) marketing: Too Much Fun is Never Enough!!! 4) Ask your friendly Unit Commissioner to attend and help with apps if anyone wants to apply on the spot. 5) There are a host of recruiting aids available as bin items, including mini-Boys Life mags. Use whatever you think will work. 6) PHOTOS!!!! and MOVIES!!! of kids having fun during the summer are a huge recruiting aid! I wish you fantastic success!
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No, it's not in the Rules and Regulations It is now in Requirements. It's now in ACP&P. Here's the cogent point: The Scoutmaster, working with his SPL and ASPLs, has the duties to: - Define expectations before elections or appointments. Those expectations should be a two way street ... learning for the Scout, performance for the Scoutmaster. - Ensure parental buy-in. I say that because I have seen parents set their kids up for failure, refusing them permission to do things that come as part of the POR. - Observe performance throughout a Scout having a job. - Cheerlead, mentor, encourage, and arm-twist as needed to sustain or improve the Scouts performance. If all the above happens, it should be a rare day indeed that a SM has to remove a youth from POR and unwind the clock. I guess what I'm trying to say is: The duty of a POR has youth, youth supervision and adult supervision elements.
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Extra sharp Cheddar with Cherry or apple pies is always fantastic.
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Our CC has a problem with a patrol name...
John-in-KC replied to bearshark's topic in The Patrol Method
I'm with Beavah. The CC should, at most, have a quiet word with the SM. It's the SMs call. -
In 1968, when I was a youth member, it was called Sustaining Membership. It's been around a while. Let me make this real simple, Abel. If you're not a COR, you need to become one. CORs have a vote. CORs can attend the business meetings of the Council. Or ... you can whimper, and nothing will change.
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I tend to agree that this project should have passed muster. Most Scoutmasters I know in my District tend to be near the room where the ELSPs get pitched. Most already know our DAC well, and know what will/won't fly. If a Scout is deferred, the reason is almost always targeted to a specific issue. About once a year, the DAC and another long serving Scouter give "The Life to Eagle Process." It's inevitably well attended by youth, their parents, advancement folks from Troop Committees, and yes, Scoutmasters. For now, my immediate recommendation is for Mr Scoutmaster to ask the DAC what happened and why?
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In no particular order... Lemon Meringue Cherry French apple Mom's Apple Pecan
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Ed, maybe a miracle of bureaucracy will happen. It's at least as likely as AIG, Citigroup, and BofA being forgiven their TARP status.
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Pow Wow is an annual supplemental training day, hosted usually by Councils. It's focused on the Cub Scout program, and provides all manner of program ideas, skills teaching, and administrative support to direct contact leaders (DLs, ADLs, CMs, CCs and MCs). University of Scouting is very similar to Pow Wow, except there is training supporting all four Scouting programs (Cub, Boy, Varsity, Venturing). I'd attend your District Roundtable and ask someone there, or else go on your Council website to find specifics for your area. Did this help?
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Atheist dad struggling with cub scouts
John-in-KC replied to KnoxDad's topic in Open Discussion - Program
perdidochas, The person who posted that comment has closed his account here at scouter. We're not going to hear from him again, most likely. -
Here's the point: There's no reason a Scout cannot use adults to execute an ELSP. There's nothing in the literature that require only current Scouts to be the labor pool for an ELSP. What matters is the labor pool gives deference to the candidate as project leader. If you want to read the backstory, it begins now. If not, scroll to the next post: EagleSon's ELSP was bringing barbershop music to two different Veterans Administration medical centers and the areas two childrens' hospitals. He selected the music to be used (granted it came from a selection of Barbershop Harmony Society standards). He trained the volunteers who supported him on hospital safety/personal information security/privacy standards (using curricula supplied by the hospital). He coordinated the visits of specific quartets to the hospitals (how would you like it if your Eagle project execution phase could only be done in 6 man-hour increments at a time?) He escorted the quartets, and coordinated each event with the floor nursing staff. He obtained a waiver of mechanical license from the Barbershop Harmony Society. Using that waiver, he recorded video CDs and audio CDs for each hospitals recreational therapist. His labor pool? The members of his area barbershop chorus. To a man, they were no less than 25 years older than he. Many were retired military. They understood what was going on, and deferred to him. They let him make a mistake or two, and helped him learn from it! Our DAC personally did the project review, and signed off as a worthy project. In fact, he'd been looking for a Scout to do something that wasn't "brick and mortar" related. He has long held a copy EagleSon's project workbook as an example for unit leaders who have Scouts wanting to do something out of the box.
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Ed, OK. When the change comes, no whining.
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Atheist dad struggling with cub scouts
John-in-KC replied to KnoxDad's topic in Open Discussion - Program
SSS, I also like Kudu's approach. MikeM, As an adult convert to grave Lutheran (LCMS, NLAS member), I agree. MY FAITH is not at issue, my willingness (in a Scouting context) to proclaim the Gospel when asked is not at issue. The issue is if a parent, who says there is no god (sic), is willing to enroll his boy in a program where the boy will encounter faith in a godhead(s)?