Gunny2862

My understanding is they were specifically worried about alcohol stoves and that fabricating a wood burning stove would not be a problem (IMHO).

Swimming against the popular stream, Words have meaning - it's why we have a dictionary. If popular culture has added a new meaning to a word or influenced it in the vernacular to mean something different than it originally meant, well, that's why context is such an important part of the American variant of the English language. I use the words I want to use, they serve me, not I them. If others have a PC agenda, fine. I, for one, am not playing. However, I do hope that any who misunderstand me or in those occasions when I will misspeak will grant me the latitude to re-phrase or co

OldGreyEagle, I don't know what it says about the rest of my cars but that Wankel engine was the best one of them all. I'd buy another one in decent condition in a heartbeat.

1979 Chevrolet Impala with the 170-horsepower 350-cubic-inch V-8, $215.00 at auction. I couldn't afford the gas for it even back then and then got the "Bomb" 1974 Ford Pinto Runabout in "Flame Orange" and "Date-Door" (Passenger could get in but needed assistance from the outside to get out)$500 at auction. From there I graduated to a Trek 7000 touring bicycle(It no kidding, cost more) a Ford Mustang(el cheapoo $$$ repairo had to go bye-bye) and afterwards bought my first and Last new car a 1994 Isuzu Impulse. From there I've had a 1985 Mazda RX-7, 1994 Saturn SL-2 and a 2004 Saturn LS200(newis

As you can tell Troops vary widely on how they do things. At least 10 Troop camp-outs a year (under stars or Canvas), 1 Cabin Camp, never more than $15 a trip. Council activities 2-5 per year depending on conflict with our outings 10-30 per outing depending on COUNCILS price. Philmont or other HA every other year after meet age requirements 720 + Travel costs about $900 total for family + Troop provided funds. Summer Camp about $250 all-in. Tents, cooking gear , water filtration etc. provided by Troop funds from fundraising(and it's not Popcorn money for this For us you can use y

Prolly Spam but, I Love ALICE if you need nearly indestructible heavy duty gear. But, for it's indestructibility you pay a weight premium. Also love MOLLE, not nearly as indestructible BUT not near the weight for capacity either. I'd buy and carry MOLLE at Philmont, but would plan on a sewing session when I got back. I am currently wearing a commercial pack but it transfers the load really well even though I am paying a weight premium, I want a GoLite Odyssey or Quest, but would use the Molle I had when I was in if I could get one at a reasonable price.

SeattlePioneer, I in no way am trying to denigrate anyone else's experience, and am glad yours was great! However I can only comment from my own - which is solely as a Scouter and Brotherhood member. But whether and how the Council and the local Chapter choose to provide Election and Tap-out/Call-out experiences is not something I can control - only comment on. YiS

We as Adults have to remember that our YOUTH members see things very differently - and after going thru the stress of what may be the first time they've ever been voted on for selection to anything, It may be very important and have a deep impact if they feel it resolved by Call-out/Tap-out while the tension is still there from the election. However, if forced to wait 2-3 months or more to attend the "Special" ceremony they may no longer care. Until the next election anyway when they are usually disappointed they didn't get it done last time. While delayed gratification is something they

shortridge, The Tribe of the Lone Bear at Camp Arrowhead, Marshfield MO , Ozark Trails council is a descendant of the Tribe of the Mic-O-Say originated by H.Roe Bartle and operates out of the Heart of America Council, see Mic-o-Say link here http://hoac-bsa.org/Camping/HonorCampingPrograms/TribeOfMicOSay.aspx ,see the History page especially. See ToLB Link here http://www.tolb.org/ you may need to copy and paste I didn't make the link live unless posting does it for me. In my humble opinion, It is another organization which within Scouting uses additional motivators to incentivise (sp?)

Fold and Roll Tents, Stuff Sleeping bags, store both loosely or hung. UNLESS the manufacturer states they expect it to be stuffed but it still get stored loose if it's mine. In my own case it's part of my overall need to have some order over things I can control and gives me inventory points as I pack the tent to ensure I have all of the stakes, poles, and accessories.

We do stuff like that all of the time and have a presentation set of stuff we loan at the Cross-over ceremony and that they reclaim with Troop provided joining swag when they complete and pay for Troop registration at their first meeting after Cross-over. Some parents don't "get" what they are doing when they "fail" to pick a Troop and just go with the flow following one kid who wants to go somewhere for whatever reason he had to pick a Troop.

Our PLC still hasn't outright banned anything, though of course some locations we visit outlaw things, so we don't take them there. As far as my view on electronics, 1) if they bring them, they are responsible for them. 2) If there's a usage issue (late night noise for instance) SPL may confiscate and return at end of trip(this of course make him responsible to safeguard it...) 3) If they are using them and it inhibits their ability to be a team (crew) member and could be a safety issue, then I (might) confiscate or more likely require them to discontinue use and pack it. i.e. Portions

Our Camp has invested a lot in ensuring strong OA and Tribe of the Lone Bear programs co-exist. This generates two workforces that augment the Camp Staff in setting out pallets for floors and distributing and erecting Tents for set-up and the reverses at the end of the season. Frankly, while I love my personal tent and my Exped mattress. I'd rather pay an additional $20 and put the UV damage on the Camps canvas tent, have more air available, be able to use a cot w/o damaging anything and get the "Camp" experience rather than just another seven days in my own tent. Our camps cabins duri

It could be many things, but in regard to the one you've pointed out. For almost any occasion that involves "saying grace" "praying for our food" our Troop defaults to the Philmont Grace and either the Chief cook for that meal or the CA or SPL leads. It does reference a Lord and utilize Amen but is fairly generic enough to avoid antagonizing most, while covering the Spiritual minimums of most also. Currently we have an Anglo, Hispanic, Asian bent to our Troop so we do have some diversity along racial lines and we also have a fair amount of economic diversity. But if they come in looking

In defense of Scout Parents, on the first outing one Scout went on his father did a come along at a state park attraction kind of place to see what this Scouting thing was all about with this troop. His kid decided to ignore instructions and run on this loose shale - which of course shifted, the kid fell and put a 5-6 inch long 1/4 inch wide gash down his knee. None of the Scouts or the Adults had any F/A gear on them. "?" Yeah, that's what he thought too. No, I wasn't a volunteer on this trip. The parent hiked the kid out to the car grabbed a clean workout towel(cut it up) and a worko

Actually, I'm less concerned by Ms. Aguilera flubbing a line and putting her spin on the song than I am by the lack of respect shown by the multi-millionaire ball players who couldn't bother to show respect to the nation that allows them the freedom to participate in this enterprise. It would be nice to see an entire team standing, with hands in appropriate places, paying attention to the flag and what it represents for the very limited amount of time it takes to sing the song. But then, I'd like to see that happening in Sports and Society across the spectrum too.

I've taken the local ARC WFA and my take on it is that it does introduce ideas that may not have occurred to the average layman BSA volunteer. Otherwise it is largely a re-hash of ARC First Aid and CPR. I think it is worthwhile and while I'm thankful for EMT's and other Medical Pro's who volunteer in the BSA I also think it's ridiculous that some would try to hold the rest of us to those standards. As regards the quality of the ARC WFA course I think it is purely a result of the Instructor and their background in both First Aid and the Outdoors setting. I also think that while being

No, and No for the reasons given above. Agnostic perhaps, Yes and No but in the case given, Sorry. But there's nothing wrong in adopting the relevant parts of the Scout Oath and Law as you relate to others and yourself. In addition, at the risk of feeding the Troll, not a very clever screen name.

From the National Park Service Incident record the Father told the Park Service that his son had just completed a physical was 5'6" and 210 lbs "of solid muscle". http://media.naplesnews.com/media/static/Park_Service_Report.pdf(This message has been edited by Gunny2862)

And don't forget that the folks who had the most and best opportunity to judge the boys fitness level(his Parents) stated he was "fit".

Moving to a BMI standard is going to go the wrong way for most large people - it is predicated on the idea that no one has any additional muscle for lifting and carrying things - runners would do fine with it but Loggers and Football linemen do poorly on BMI charts. Now if we could exempt with body composition, that might work but additional muscle shouldn't necessarily be a bad thing unless we are talking about a horses carrying capacity or something like that where the actual load limit comes into play.

Twocubdad, Navy Corpsmen lose Marines on Training runs on base in PT gear, happens enough it's usually not a big story. Professional usually EMT level trained medical professionals working on a regular basis with people they know who are in EXCELLENT shape especially when compared to the avg. civilian. Heat and Cold signs are easy to miss - self-diagnosis and buddy diagnosis - or in our case Scouts who have actually LEARNED what we are teaching them, is the best defense here. Does that mean the SM has no responsibility - of course not, but barring becoming paid full time pros - there

Without requiring EMT's who are themselves limited, you aren't going to do better than ARC CPR/FA and WFA. but they are still extremely limited and are in no way the panacea some posters in the Everglades accident thread think they would be. I did the Army Combat Lifesaver Training while I was in the Corps and even that is no guarantee that it would solve these problems, even if it were applicable for use on and available to Civilians to use for training- even EMTS are limited in what they can do. At times the situation develops and in ways that, no matter what you planned, is going to kick

I'd like to ask a few more questions about this. In the overall story it alleges 6 Boy Scout related youth deaths since the 1990's - Out of how many cumulative Boy Scouts during the same period? And then what is the standard U.S. mortality rate at that age group? In the overall story it alleges 6 Boy Scout related youth deaths since the 1990's - and then lists three one during a Grand Canyon hike, one on the Water and one from a lightning strike. If expert knowledge is assumed to be required for a hike, then doesn't it follow that some higher than usual level of risk is also invol

Most of our Campouts follow the model Scoutnut most recently posted. OTOH, the SM and ASM always stand ready to engage in any specific advancement check the Scout has made himself ready for, or to teach any skill they may want to pursue. But by and large we like to see advancement happen in the course of Scouting, rather than Scouting happen in the course of advancement.