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Eagle Foot

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  1. Our council accepts annual tour permits. Now saying that...it only excepts annual tour permits to council property as blanket coverage for one year. This was a debate a few years ago until the council sent a letter to all units. They would except an annual tour permit only if you went to council proptery. No exceptions!!! It also advised that each unit leader was responsible to update the permit if at anytime anything changed, otherwise it was void. I suppose this was an attempt to reduce paper work for those who did not like to do paper work. It has always been interesting to m
  2. I don't have much time on this...but the committee is not required to vote on anything as I read it in the committee guide book. The scouts decide on what they are to do and present it to the committee. Then the commitee does it's best to make it happen if it is reasonable. If it is unreasonable the only reason it gets that far is because the SM let it. The boys run the troop, the committee is there to support the troop, the SM delivers the progrom. I've seen this before...been there done that. It's not much furn, it's really the boys troop...the PLC needs to decide who, what, when
  3. I don't have much time on this...but the committee is not required to vote on anything as I read it in the committee guide book. The scouts decide on what they are to do and present it to the committee. Then the commitee does it's best to make it happen if it is reasonable. If it is unreasonable the only reason it gets that far is because the SM let it. The boys run the troop, the committee is there to support the troop, the SM delivers the progrom. I've seen this before...been there done that. It's not much furn, it's really the boys troop...the PLC needs to decide who, what, when
  4. There are really a multiple of times: The time when I was fourteen years old me and other scouts from my troop and others at least twenty or so scouts were taken out into know where. We were given compass cordinates on a Friday evening around 10pm and had to be back at the Worth Ranch mess hall Sunday at noon. (twenty miles+) One live chicken and teams of 4 (1 chicken per every 2 scouts)...thats all untill Sunday lunch. We did have to cross the Brazos river and we did loooooooooooose some stuff, but everybody made it ok, and it was in Jan. Moooooooooore later as I have time to write.
  5. What,What,What, Where did I miss these new requirements on the arrow of light. I must have been wraped up with the upcoming fall camporee, what has change in the requirements? Eagle Foot
  6. Up Date........ sctmom & caddmommy I stepped down form the position. If you have to convience members of the committee that when one of them threatens another then you have problems. They are friends...at our committee meeting this guy even said he was going to hit me and if I approached him again he may do it. His words were him or me *^@!!&*%%. Then he left the room. He wasen't playing... To me this is a no brainer---duaaaa...why would I have to convience the troop committe this is wrong. They were ticked he left. Sometimes spit happens. These folks all started in
  7. What extent can Webelos Scouts camp with Boy Scouts? For example: Webelos (2nd year) are invited to a Camporee where the Boy Scouts will be camping in patrol form using only what they can carry, packing all of their food in. Each patrol group will move to a station set up for wilderness survival instructions, each group will be allow 30 minutes for demonstration, information, and some hands on. Can Webelos participate as part of a scout patrol? Can they camp with the boys without an adult present but near? The Webelos who must have an adult present (parent or guardian)can the adult b
  8. Let me clarify more---Survival techniques not just survival in the woods, more along the lines of what can be done with some practical. Im looking for some of you who may have put something together like this in the past. I am not looking for the boys to pick berrys, set snares, trap wild animals, or set up a bird net for tonights meal. Im looking for information that can be of the same mind with mine. You are right buffalo2; I want stations set up, that the scouts can navigate too. Get started at night with a compass coordinate to go to and set up their camps as patrols. Each group giv
  9. I am looking for some good ideas for a survival camporee for boy scouts. Something that will pretty much use their skills from Tenderfoot through First Class. What I am looking for is someone who has done this....some of the logistics, station activities, I'm looking to possibly have all scouts bring in just what they can carry in their pack...what do you think the boys would like? A Baen-Powell survival...fun. Eagle Foot
  10. mgaesser This is along the same thread I just finished posting. ASM anger, as unfortunant as these things are you and your scout have to do what is right. As the advice I recieve form this form (some great thinkers with excellent wisdom) is...follow the scout Oath, Law, & God's golder rule... I recieve no back up from my CC or commitee because they just really wanted to avoid futher conflict, and having this spread around the district. Very important that you stick with what is right. Anytime an adult strikes a youth is a big problem. Anytime an adult threatens another adult is a
  11. jbroganjr I agree with your post. Well ASM left after the meeting diden't think he had done anything wrong. As far as taking critisim about his son he wasen't up to listening. Complained how he had to pick the ball up all the time...my form of leadership is.... if you start something keep going with it... it's the best way to learn how to do it better. CC woulden't back me, the committee was 50/50 I offored to change leadership...no takers. They put me on notice that my son and a couple of other scouts were on thin ice. I do agree to a certain extent. That justs a way to say we ar
  12. So what happened...well I have contacted my COR and we met. He agreed that this sort of thing should not go undone. He would like to get both sides of the incident so we are haveing a committee meeting tomorrow night (Tuesday). It's as if he would like to give the ASM another chance....he wants to throw it to the committee. I've already said if this happens I will be compromising my position...reguardless...adults do not do this. Adults in scouting do not openly call the boys moorons (sp). Two other adults saw this...they agree this is not good. I feel if the committee goes with g
  13. I think I am missing something? If I drive must I have another adult in the vehicle if I have another scout in the vehicle with me who is not my son? If I am the last at the troop meeting and another scout is still waiting for his ride and my son is with me, must there be another adult present? I thought I understood this... Correct me ! Eagle Foot
  14. Sounds like everybody is on target. I pass out the permission sheets two weeks before the campout, included is a list of basics for the season, (I use troop master for permission sheets) that way every scout is listed by name and the patrol that they are in. This is due back to me with the money at the troop meeting before the campout. The money goes to the patrol grubmaster...you do not pay the budget for the patrol is what is paid. No promises...if you show up with out paying you had better have brought some food or you will be sent home. If you pay and don't show up...no problem...just m
  15. I am not really sure how to approach this. My ASM continues to be really bossy with the scouts (and everybody else in general) This past weekend at a whitewater camping trip he blew up. As a rule we do not let our scouts buy cokes, candy, etc. with patrol money...as a patrol for their meals. I'v never stoped them from doing so if we on a trip and make a stop...they do it with their own money. During our trip my ASM decided to feed everybody pizza because our chicken had not thawed out for dinner. I had know problem with this...but it was more or less told rather than discussed. Some o
  16. THE NECESSARY NECKERCHIEF The Neckerchief a Heritage from Scouts of Old The smart and necessary neckerchief is the only spot, apart from the badges and insignia, in which the practical, earth-hued uniform of the Scout flowers into color. Like the painted sails of the boats of Venice, the age-old fez of Cairo's bazaars, and the paint box sweaters of a college campus, the Neckerchief, "a heritage from the Scouts of old, the pioneer and the plainsman," gives life to the sober dress of the Boy Scout. And that touch of color is the one thing needed to catch the eye and to stir the enthusiasm of
  17. Sales and estimating manager for a landscape company the first forty-five hours each week. The next twenty-five hours (most evenings) I am Nursery specialist, stocker, sweeper, loader, and anything else for Lowes. I hold a degree in ornamental Horticulture out of Chicago and have served as a greenhouse grower & operations manager for the past twenty-eight years. Still find time to be Scoutmaster each week, go camping once a month with the boys, serve as Camp-O-Ree chairman for the district, keep the grass mowed at home, the pool clean and the flowers planted.
  18. Great answers form everyone. Sports is important, Scouting is important. It is a valuable lesson to learn on how to balance several things that you would really like to do. Sports is seasonal at least for each session. Scouting is year-round. They both involve learning how to be a team player. It is possible to do both with a little planning. The boy will learn how to do is best. Sometimes failing form overcommitment even doing your best is worth doing. It is better to find this out as a youth when no real harm is likely to happen than to have this happen as an adult where it could eff
  19. Sound familiar? My ASM and I were discussing the new scout patrol in our troop or the lack of. We have 6 new cross overs and only 2 to 3 have show up at the last 2-troop meetings since coming aboard. I realize it may be a little pre-mature to worry about but its worth a heads up to watch. The boys and the parents have all been informed that the troop meets every week and that there is a program for these new scouts that will help them become part of the troop and that they will be the ones running the troop with the other scouts. The new scouts are all playing baseball and wont be availab
  20. Do the one about the back packer. New Scout... He's going pack backing.. Pulls out a Dutch over for his stove Pulls out out or is carring 5 gal. cooler for water. Everthing he has is on the heavy side. And in conclusion the Scoutmaster says to the young new scout...I suppose you've got the kitchen sink....yes sir...and he throws down a kitchen sink.
  21. I wanted to toss this out...Last Fall my DE approched me with the current "Progam Chairman" for the district about assuming his role as "Program Chairman" This involves many things from promoting summer camp to arranging district camporees. We were in compleat agreement. He would pass to me his information from the past and I would be the new "Program Chairman" I would plan the fall camporee...organize and impliment...it went great. To my suprise this week the new leadership list came out and I have already been replaced by another scouter. He is currently serving as a Tiger Lea
  22. Go to e-bay...they've got em. I got one that was printed in the 70's... I think I would rather have one printed in the 60's. I know it needs updating, but it is really usefull. You should be able to get them for around $3 bucks + shiping. Eagle Foot
  23. Happy Holidays and a Merry Christmas to all at Scouter.Com. We are getting rain here in the south. Thank you to all who post and the service you do in scouting. Eagle Foot Scoutmaster
  24. I may stand corrected...The Charting Organization has the option to inforce diplay of these options of dress. If scouts are part of a church they are part of it's youth program. Scoumasters can express their approval or disapproval and can op a recommemdation. Only the COR can bring it to final as decided by the CO. Maybe a troop guide book that has the approval of the troop committee and the Charting organization will help. My personal feelings are tatoos may happen...not much you can do otherwise. If extreem then scout may have a problem. Piercings there should be restrictions. This i
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