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  1. I had the same problem,,,when I took over as Scoutmaster I had a member of the troop who had not turned over money from a fund raiser. About all you can do is call them and try to make arrangements. In my experience those who are going to pay will pay. Those who let it go generally let it go...there are lessons to learn (granted they may not be the type you want) but lessons to pass down to all who are involved with fundraisers. Make sure you have a good committee, make sure all of you are on the same page!!! When all else fails asked yourself...are we following the Scout Law and Scout O
  2. Smoke from the campfire has no specfic direction except when you sit in front of the fire...then the smoke will follow you. I hate white rabbits, I hate white rabbits, I hate white rabbits....
  3. We have two who do not have sons, one is now our committee chairman and the other is our advancement chairman. Both where Eagle scouts.... I know the feelings, however you may be missing out on some golden help!!! I told them when the meetings were then I let them do the rest, if truly interested I figured they would show up on their own, and I followed and practiced the Scout Oath with them. After about four or five meetings I got them signed up...we've never been happier. To put things in more focus they both are member of the church and of our mens group, our support scale ha
  4. I just turned down a scout for Eagle because his scout sprit was not... ...not helpful to others ...not willing to wear the uniform properly or as requested. ...not willing to set the example of good behavior when around other scouts. The list goes on, it's not that he's really a bad guy, he just doesen't want to do things the way that present as good scouting image. If he he can slide he will. These things need to be cought in the scoutmaster's conference, before the scout goes to the board of review. I also get feed back from the other ASM's as to what they think, how has this
  5. Last March I took over a troop that diden't have any adult who would step up and fill the position of SM. As time went on I have one scout who told me he was going to be an Eagle Scout....very good. Lets see what all you need to do since you are going to be seventeen shortly. Long stroy short...he as a bad attitude....bully's the other scouts and uses bad language...(**)*_+**&^$#( and the like. He is down to the wire now only five months until his eighteenth birthday. He was always border line but the last camping trip he was bullieing the scouts, hitting them in the lower parts a
  6. For the ranks of Star through Eagle each Scout is required to serve in a leadership position, Troop Scribe, Troop Quartermaster, Patrol Leader, etc. To give this scout credit for that position how strick are you? Does the Scout just have a title for credit or does the Scout really have to work for the credit? (Edited by Eagle Foot)
  7. For the ranks of Star through Eagle each Scout is required to serve in a leadership position, Troop Scribe, Troop Quartermaster, Patrol Leader, etc. To give this scout credit for that position how strick are you? Does the Scout just have a title for credit or does the Scout really have to work for the credit? (Edited by Eagle Foot)
  8. I rescently steped up to the position of SM of a troop (March 04) when the SM said that he had, enough. It seems there is always some one who thinks we shoulden't be doing what we are doing, and that their way would be better, or that someone else whould do a better job. Last week I had one of my ASM's tell me he thought my plate was too full and that ASM xyz whould make a good SM. (I'm also District Camping Chariman) ---Same person former SM had issues with--- This guy even went to our DE...DE called me to give me heads up that this was happening. He doesn't like the guy, said to
  9. Check out this web page http://www.ptcumcscouts.org/troop175/ You may want to contact them they use a lot of passwords.
  10. Normally we do it the last week in July or the first week in August. In May through June I suggest that the scouts be thinking about what they would like to do next year. Make a list...over produce so a compleate list can be made. We meet generally during a weekend campout and go over the list whittleing it down to 12 months of camping and some weekend day trips. Each trip,fund raiser, or activity must be asked------ Who--What---When----How?????-----Where.... Scouts should fund these....not mom & dad writing a check...as some do because it't the easiest thing to do. Tr
  11. To best of your ability at the time!!!! Eagle Foot's policy....aways carry a BSA 'Guide to Safe Scouting' ....when in question... look it up. Better yet have "Those" look it up so we both can be on the same page. Saves problems, clears the air real fast. I can always stand to be corrected when I'm wrong. That's part of it all. Something else...I've always had more trouble out of the adults than I do the kids no matter how bad the adults say they are. (Edited by Eagle Foot)
  12. In our troop it is written in the troop "Guide" that dues must be paid ever quarter. If the scout is unable to meet this obligation please contact the scoutmaster and or the troop CC. It also states that if the scout is more than 3 months behind we can not advance or attend any activity outside the regular troop meeting. This was put into place by the boys and with the advice of the scoutmaster and approval from the troop commettee. If it's not written as part the the troop operations then it is really not formal. In your cases it is best to discuss it with the SM....and or the CC. If to
  13. 1) What type of scouting unit is it? Boy Scout Troop going into it's 25th. year 2) Do you feel you have a well functioning committee? ....absolutly not 2) How many memebers are on it and what are their specific assignments? Five members... We have a committee chairman...she is leaving after some ten years...has done a terrfic job. We have other members listed on the charter but with know specfic duties... We can post meeting dates all day long...no one shows up. I'm going in the back door approach and calling for a parents meeting...they show up for those
  14. This is also a common in our district. I arrange the camporees where the Spring Camporee is for Webelos and Boy Scouts...the Boy Scouts teach the Webelos...in return the Boy Scouts get to do something special...that is Boy Scouts only...ie. climbing towers, repelling, etc. The Fall Camporee is for Boy Scouts only. It is competition with a challange. Last year it was the survival challange, based on the TV show with different stations, puzzles, challanges, and patrol competition. This year it is a raft race down the river. The rafts have to be built on site the day of the event. I look a
  15. Does your system allow a unit to conduct an activity without your (SM's) signature? Ans. Nothing in writing about this...gray area...they consider these non scouting. Or are they doing this not under your Troop's umbrella? Ans. Not doing this under the troop's umbrella but doing this on scout property, they never had a proplem yet!!!!! They claim these are non scouting...but claim advancement on these on some occasions when it fits or favors them.
  16. The SM is not one of these people I am the SM.
  17. About every 2 months we have a couple of our adult leaders (ASM's)who take it upon them selves to conduct an activity that involves their little group. This group involves about 4-5 scouts from the troop. These activities are things like repelling, canoeig, hiking, etc....but just their group. They give no notice nor do they invite or include other members of the troop. These activities cut into such things like having to leave early from camping (troop camping)or not being able to attend weekend camping because they did something the weekend before. Not only does this cut into adult
  18. We use permission forms for all activities away form the troop meeting. I believe that the permission form also insures that insurance is covered. I also make a list of equipment/clothing needed...I mostly do it for parents, the boys pretty much get it!
  19. In our district we have a district planning person, who is also the District Boy Scout Camping Chairman. This person plans the camporees and builds a camporee committee. It has worked very well...we also tried to use the troops to plan it, some times it was great, sometimes it diden't happen. At present I am this person, if you would like more information feel fee to contact me I be happy to share with you what ever I can. Eagle Foot.
  20. I believe the reason is because of the liability is on the camp if a failure in equipment happens. It's not that your equipment is bad, they (the camp)needs to have total responsibility when it comes to activities that involve life or death such as climbing and repeling. They are the ones held accountable and not you and your equipment. Talk to your cope insturctor they should know. Eagle Foot
  21. I would prefere to call it Troop Guide / Handbook. There is always those who (those being adults) who must have everything written out that directly applys to the troop. I just get the COR and the CO to make policy for that CO and incorporate it into the Troop Handbook. I also gave tons of information using the Troop Committee Guide Book and other BSA publications. (edited by Eagle Foot)
  22. As the new SM of an older troop that was spinning out of control, the ASM's seem to do what they want too. They do not really openly cause conflict but behind the seens they are together...making contact with "Their Boys" to do things. They keep the SM pretty much in the dark. I'm watching this situation closly trying to decide how to deal with it. For example: We are going on our spring camporee this weekend. None could come except one who is not with them. Come to find out they are taking COPE training, I think this is good...but....they sure diden't let their SM know. Not that t
  23. I stand corrected...I thought that I read that the CC and Tres. sign the check and purchase's were at the recomendation of the SM. I need to find another copy of Committee Guide Book and read up. Thanks Eagle Foot
  24. Wow!!!! I have told other scouters things like this really happen. You must or I should say you should have all checks made to the troop....If you write checks to parents then have them write to the troop, this is bad business. In our legalistic life styles this will protect the innocent. Use the committee guide Book as to how checks are signed by the Committee chair & Treasurer...as a Scoutmaster I dont want to sign checks.Ill spend the money. It was good your DC was there, Im sure he helped opened the door for your (x)Treasurer so she wouldnt knock a whole in
  25. FOG...you are right!!! I thought I was the only person with these thoughts. Adults and even scouts tried to make me feel guilty about being "To much by the book" meaning if you aren't paying attention, your gonna miss out. If you don't turn in that permission form by the said date....you really are not considered going!!! I adhear to the method "Never do something a Scout could do" when it comes to scouting. The second issue is advancement...Scouts should know their stuff. The first issue is the uniform and all of the discriptions reguarding Class A, B, & C...diden't
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