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  1. The correct answer is what Bob White says SPL & PL are the only elected. In a new scout troop consessions are made with the new leadership. In an older troop where they know the ropes the SPL will have to do a good job. You can't expect to play in the big game if you don't show up for pratice... The SPL can be removed by the SM if he feels that the SPL is not giving it his best or is just wearing the patch. I think it is good for them to be elected, it is also unfortunate if the SPL has to be replaced during his term, but it will make other scouts see just how important
  2. Good answers...what I'm trying to see is that in the SPL handbook it says that the SPL is not a member of a patrol. Other than that (I may have overlooked)there is nothing else...where does he go? Does he or should he have additional duty rooster responsibilities? I do as SM, I would think he would also. This has come up because I made the statement that I wanted the SPL to stay with his patrol because the patrol had less than eight members (six). An ASM challanged my ruling told me I coulden't do that...of coarse it was in front of the scouts. Maybe I'm wrong (please advise so) but
  3. How does the SPL of your troop position himself with the troop when it comes to camping? Do you include the SPL with the adults or do you expect the SPL to be with the patrol he was detached out of? I know the SPL is not a member of a patrol when he becomes SPL.
  4. Any suggestions on the best way to jump start an old troop. I am the new SM of this troop which is going on twenty five years old and has nothing. There are thirteen scouts chartered and about 10 active. They have some pretty lax habbits about scouting. Not very organized. Parents argue with you about meeting times, they want 1 hour, can come in late and leave early if needed and don't seem to want to make any commitment. Everybody will leave you hanging before a campout untill the last minute then only 3-4 show up for camping. You can't cancil to those that show up....I'm thinking that
  5. As a Scoutmaster I try to never cancel a camping trip. Not to say that bad weather and or lack of adults for two deep has made it a challange sometimes. In the winter I'll encourage the scouts to do winter cabins one month. If winter cabins are not available somewhere that there is a good pavilion. I usually conduct a JLT in Feb. at local scout camp using their pavalion and other shelters. We try never to cancel because of bad weather. Our troop has a scout hut with pavilion,,,if things get tough we can camp on the church gounds and use the pavalion. This puts us close enough to home t
  6. FOG, Thanks for the correction...to bad they "ARE NOT" You are right SM has to sign the blue card. In our district they do a pretty good job. Hey I've got a guy in our troop who's been handing out Merit Badges like they were candy, gets the blue card afterwards... then takes it to the SM...because the new SM did not know. I haven't read the Advancement Guidline booklet, but I will be reading it by the weekend. Any other good reading to get to stay up with advancement? Thanks FOG for all you do in Scouting Eagle Foot
  7. Go/send him to Merit Badge Day...doesn't matter if the troop supports it or not...he can register as one (1) from the unit. I'm pretty sure they won't turn him down. Why would they? I've been to a bunch of these and we always had one (1) scout form a unit...we just worked him in. Too bad the troop is above supporting this, Merit badge day is another way to continue earning Merit Badges that the unit may not have covered. (edited by Eagle Foot)
  8. Bob White is right. If the counselor is not registured then the Merit Badge will not be valadated. I am having the same important problem with a troop I started working with (that's why they ask for help) The worst part of all of this is, it is not helping the boys get what they need to get from earning the merit badge. There is a ASM in the troop who is serving as a counselor and signing off merit badges who is not registured for either or that paticuliar merit badge...nor does he have either job experience or advocation in them, he just decides this is what we are working o
  9. I think you should go and get the knot. I got my knot and I recieved my Arrow of Light in 1962. A scout is Trustworthy. Anyway I think anyone who has been in Scouting for any length of time can sifer out those who may or may not have done exactly everything required for a knot. I have noticed that in most cases (not all) those who have stacks of knots...lets just say those who wear a couple seem to be with the program. ---I did have my card with me just incase the Scout office asked for proof. They diden't. --edited by Eagle Foot---
  10. I got the BSA Woodsman Knife, now all I need to do is find my template so I can make a leather holder. I pick this template up 3 years ago hoping some day I would get a knife to put in it. BSA Woodbadge Ring...really my treat for Christmas...funny how your wife will not have much to say about Scouting or do you really need to keep that cup cliped to your belt? She out did herself in getting this ring. Defied all laws of shiping and got it in record time. Eagle Foot
  11. Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to all of you...Do your Best, Help one another, and Do a good turn Daily. God bless all of you. You are pioneers in the scouting movement. Eagle Foot
  12. How many boys registered? 17 How many boys active? 14 How many Patrols? 3---1 to many Does your troop go to summer camp in or out of Council? In Council Does your troop go to Dist/Council Camporees? Yes Does your troop support FOS? Yes Does your troop sell Popcorn? Yes If not, what are your fundraisers? Does your troop use NSP, FCFY method? FC in 12-18 months Does your troop have a Venture Patrol? No Does your troop have a feeder pack? Yes...Our feeder pack needs better adult leader training...they set some bad habits. How does your troop recruit non-Cub Scouts? Word of mo
  13. FOG hit the nail on the head, sounds like he's been there done that. The Scoutmaster wants the change, he just can't get it going by himself. Yes...it's a group of "we've allways done it like this'. My son wants to get back into scouting...I'm not so sure I'd want him in the troop untill some changes can be made. I apprecieate this feedback...this form really has some good folks. I'm gonna present some changes to be put forth to the Scoutmaster, if he doesen't want to do them I may consider taking the invite to start a new troop in March. My problem is "I just love this stuff" By
  14. I was asked by a Scoutmster to join his troop --with appointment form the COR and what troop committee was in place. This troop is what I call a "run-a-gade troop". Doing things not the BSA way. Parents signing off on advancement, ASM's handing out merit badges like candy, ASM's taking "Their Patrol" camping or activity opposing the troops. NO --- NOBODY HAS BEEN TRAINED...just if you are asking yourself. The Scoutmaster wants to let them run arye...with the new scouts and one other patrol get a handle on things as they are suppose to be and just allowing the other older sco
  15. I became a Scoutmaster because my son was moving up to Boy Scouts from Cubs. I was ask to start a troop. I had a great program, I thought everything would be great, but soon my great program began to fall apart. Why? because I had real conflict with ASM's who wanted to do everything there way, little by little, but they did not want the responsibility of SM. They favored their scouts from cubs and this caused problems with others. My son had conflict after contflict with their click, the others just quit. Trying to change this group was imposible. The ASM's never saw the big pic
  16. To kick it up a knotch...we have a couple of troops that have the Webelos II meet with the Boy Scout troop. They are part of the opening they repeat the scout oath and the pledge. Thay are also part of the closing circle and the scoutmsters minute. Inbetween opening and closing they meet with their Webelos leader to conduct their program in Webelos II. Timing is set the same as the troop. When the troop has an inter-patrol game the Webelos join in as a patrol. This is going great, the cross over into that troop is at almost 100%. Everybody knows each other, every knows wh
  17. Life Scout Arrow of Light Assistant Cubmaster Cubmaster Scoutmaster two times Assistant Scoumaster Current advancement chariman Current Assistant Scoutmaster Current Boy Scout Camping Chairman for District Have just been ask to start and serve as Scoutmast of another troop in March of 2004...don't know...wow...I just love this stuff.
  18. Uniformed adult, who demonstrates by example Scouting ways. Patience, Practice, Prepared and Plans. Has the sprit of youth and the discipline of experience. Friend and companion to his fellow man.
  19. Vespers, Should Vespers be manditory in attendance? [Troop level to Camporee level] What are some of your views on Vesper services. What are some of your best remembered services? If adults do not attend but make their scouts attend, is this showing quality leadership? Questions by Eagle Foot....
  20. What is a Jamboree? ...Social Gathering ...Gettogether ...Festivity ...Event ...Celebration What is a Scout? ...Explorer ...Reconnoiter ...Inspector ...Surveyor ...Scrutinizer Does this help? [Edited by Eagle Foot]
  21. My walking stick, cut when I was fourteen at Philmont...I'm 51 now... Eagle Foot ...still walking
  22. I'm with tieing her to the tree!! Sounds like some folks may not be trained. If they are they need a refresher course. I've seen this and been there. My only suggestion other than the tree is to talk with your SM in privite with your COR... do not do this one on one it may turn into he said, she said, they said type of talk and nobody made any progress. Troops should be boy run, with the adult SM insuring that the program is being presented. See what you can get from the PLC and make sure it follows the Scout Law & Oath. Our goal here is not to get ride of anyone but to fi
  23. This is something that has come up lately in our district. While contacting scout troops about participating in our fall camporee I discovered that we were going too, or had allready lost about 4 Boy Scout troops. 2 to 3 more were just hanging in there. Mostly due to no new members. The troops had not actively recruted new scouts. They had not set as part of their troop program new membership. What happen???...the boys they had gotton older, Boys advanced to Eagle, some of the boys left the troop....but no new scouts ever came into the troop or the one or two that did was not enough
  24. Bats right Kicks right Golfs right Paints (with brush) right & left Hammers (with nails) right & left Writes (on black board) right & left Writes (on paper) left...caint figure this out!!!! Throws right
  25. Trailers really help out: ...however--you need someone who will pull it for ever time you go out. ...you will need to store it somewhere, where it will be safe. ...you will need to do one of two things 1. tag it with the charter orginazation and be willing to share it. 2. tag it with an individual and you may loose it if they leave. ...try to to do #1 it's the best way to go and keep it at the CO., otherwise you may have limited acess. Lowe's and Home Depoit have trailers...a good trailer will run around $1,800.00 to $2,000.00 If you can find a good used 8x10 expe
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