ManyIrons

Howdy All, Long time, no type. Our lodge is merging with another later this year and we're in the process of drafting a special closing ceremony. We're looking for ideas or scripts from similar ceremonies. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks! WWW Chewli Sukachsin

Since they're alternate spellings for each other I'd guess it's due to the preference of the author. What I'm wondering about is why one lodge in PA apparently requires candidates to be at least 13. Oh well I guess they kind of make up for it by only requiring 14 nights of camping instead of 15.

I said the "need" for sheath knives would be an item to address. As for no prohibition against sheath knives, well that depends where you are. They are specifically prohibited at the half-dozen different BSA summer camps I've attended, and they wouldn't be permitted on school property. Even the Guide to Safe Scouting says: "Avoid large sheath knives . . ." Granted the discussion there concerns the use of them in a camping environment. Kahits, just "know" before you "go" to avoid any problems.

Just another datapoint and to piggyback on what BrotherhoodWWW said, the latest update to the OA Field Operations Guide says "The Boy Scouts of America policy regarding weapons will be followed." See http://www.oa-bsa.org/resources/pubs/FOG-2008.pdf Note: the cited quotation deals specifically with the various competitions at Conclave/NOAC, but the G2SS quote would apply everywhere. That appears to cover the issue of firearms, the other item to address is the need for sheath knives.

Interesting. On one hand, it could help bust the "good ol' boy/gal" rings that the new course rules were supposed to eliminate (it didn't in my council). Although it may also give them control of NYLT (scoutldr's concern). They essentially already do so in my council so no change there for Moi. On the other hand it really seems to dilute the meaning of the 3rd bead. At the moment I'd have to agree with dan and lean toward a separate recognition; however, I don't thing I'd prefer to see it on the thong.

Tindeuchen, Depending on your exact location in NW Ohio, you may be in the traditional lands of the Miami Indians. The nearest group of Miami to you would be in Indiana (http://www.miamiindians.org/), although the federally recognized Miami Nation is located in Oklahoma (http://www.miamination.com/). As ASM915 mentioned, the Eiteljorg Museum may be an excellent source for you. They have a gallery titled Mihtohseenionki (Miami for The Peoples Place). If you cant visit they do have some on-line materials at http://www.eiteljorg.org/ejm_Education/JustForTeachers/details.asp?id=116.

scoutmom2, Assistant Scoutmasters (nor the SM for that matter) are members of the troop committee. If your committee needs proof have them review a copy of the Troop Committee Guidebook. In my copy, Chapter 4 outlines all the positions of the committee and does not include Scoutmasters -- assistant or otherwise. And for the record, Scoutmasters and assistants are not supposed to hold a committee position in addition to their other responsibilities. Hope this helps.

Hops, Yeah, I wasn't looking to do a Joy vs Sunnen thing either. My point was that a lot of it comes down to perception and I wish more troops would articulate their likes and dislikes to the council camping committee. Of course if you're doing that and not getting satisfaction you have every right to vote with your feet. Also, I don't think you can define a unit's support of the council by any one activity. You really have to look at it from a wider perspective and understand that there isn't really a one-size-fits-all way to define it. Each unit may be providing a lot of suppor

All, Here's a link to 500 additional photos from the jamboree: http://www.tsa.thirdlight.com/libraryhome.tlx Once the page opens, follow the link at the bottom for "Latest pictures . . . " kb6jra I sent you a PM. I spotted a Venture Crew member who is definitely from the Western Region. If you download the photo and zoom in you can read their name tag.(This message has been edited by ManyIrons)

You're welcome kb6jra. Ditto on "wish I were there". It was only 4K from Illinois, but 8K total was waaaaay too rich for my blood. That and having all the adult slots full made it an easy decision for me We haven't heard from our Scout and probably won't. I told him he spent too much money to be wasting time on line for a phone or email. Mrs. ManyIrons feels differently but also wants him to get maximum fun out of this. Ditto also on the lack of photo evidence of his attendance over there. The odds are obviously against us, but I swear every photo we have of him since he w

Hops, Long Time - No Type. Since we're in the same council I feel a need to chime in here. First let me say that I support any troops right to attend whatever summer camp they choose. However, I dont think youve been completely fair in your observations of Camp Joy. A couple of points: 1. How was the option to attend an out of council camp presented? I only ask because a former Scoutmaster of our troop used to give the Scouts a choice between A or B and then touted it as the Scouts choice. Im not saying anything sinister happened in your troop, just asking how you arrived at y

Ditto kb6jra!! My son is also at the jamboree. According to the website (http://eng.thejamboree.org/) his sub-camp (Atoll) led the procession into the arena this morning for the sunrise ceremony. We haven't heard from him directly, but we're following it via troop emails and internet photos. It must be totally overwhelming, but I'm sure they are having the time of their lives. Can't wait to hear all about it!! Here are a few links to some photos: http://www.bsawsj2007.org/ http://picasaweb.google.com/temcdonough

I was very surprised also, but my first thought was that someone has taken advantage of Terry -- either by deception or by hack. I can't imagine any scenario where Terry would knowingly accept this type of advertisement.

There's was one at the top of this page when I checked the thread -- I won't mention the address in case it's random. OGE, I'm sending you the info via PM.

emb021, I didnt say a program unique to each camp I said tailored. I can only speculate on why the Mic-O-Say template is used so often -- and that would be due to their demonstrated ability to bring campers back to summer camp, particularly the older Scouts.