scoutldr Posted Wednesday at 12:41 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:41 PM (edited) Section 6: Rules around the number of local council members, the composition of members, the size of the local council board, and the composition of the board were eliminated. The new proposed Local Council Bylaws Template gives local councils flexibility to structure their own governance according to their needs. Of note, in order to allow local councils more flexibility in determining the appropriate number of members and in selecting their members, chartered organizations will no longer be automatic voting members of the local councils. Local councils can continue to elect chartered organization representatives as voting members if desired. Source: Facebook post by J. D. Urbach in "Talk About Scouting!" Edited Wednesday at 12:42 PM by scoutldr Added source 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted Wednesday at 01:31 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:31 PM 49 minutes ago, scoutldr said: chartered organizations will no longer be automatic voting members of the local councils. Removing the possibility of the grass roots uprising as a "threat" to power over the organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle94-A1 Posted Wednesday at 02:23 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:23 PM Stupid question, wouldn't the current CORs have to vote to allow this? And if they vote to not allow this, will they be forced to by National with the threat of withholding the charter? And is this in preparation of all the forced mergers headed our way as some council have contested the mergers already? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted Wednesday at 02:25 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:25 PM (edited) 2 minutes ago, Eagle94-A1 said: is this in preparation of all the forced mergers headed our way as some council have contested the mergers already This, yes... prevent the COR uprising to vote against a merger... gotta remove the potential power struggle with those pesky volunteers, you know. Edited Wednesday at 02:27 PM by InquisitiveScouter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashTagScouts Posted Wednesday at 02:36 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:36 PM 9 minutes ago, Eagle94-A1 said: Stupid question, wouldn't the current CORs have to vote to allow this? And if they vote to not allow this, will they be forced to by National with the threat of withholding the charter? And is this in preparation of all the forced mergers headed our way as some council have contested the mergers already? Chartering Agreements to this point have had a responsibility listed for the CO to "Select a Charter Organization Representative (COR) to serve as a voting member of the council". I would presume that this change being highlighted is going to impact the 2026 chartering agreement, to remove that. Ultimately, it was a bylaw/rule/regulation of the National Organization, so only the National Board needs to vote to amend the bylaw/rules/regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted Wednesday at 02:50 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:50 PM 2 hours ago, scoutldr said: Section 6: Rules around the number of local council members, the composition of members, the size of the local council board, and the composition of the board were eliminated. The new proposed Local Council Bylaws Template gives local councils flexibility to structure their own governance according to their needs. Of note, in order to allow local councils more flexibility in determining the appropriate number of members and in selecting their members, chartered organizations will no longer be automatic voting members of the local councils. Local councils can continue to elect chartered organization representatives as voting members if desired. Source: Facebook post by J. D. Urbach in "Talk About Scouting!" I doubt this is going to affect any council. The reality of the situation is that absolutely no CORs are showing up to council meetings or even district meetings. I know this to be fact for my council and the councils surrounding my council. I have nagged the living ^&*( out of my CORs to go to district and council meetings and they all say the exact same thing "I don't have time for that.". My #1 go to line for unit leaders being pissy about our latest property liquidation has been "Did your COR bother to show up to the council meeting about that to vote on the matter?"; I have yet to meet a COR that was at that vote, or any of the previous votes, or a single district or council meeting period. 9 minutes ago, HashTagScouts said: Chartering Agreements to this point have had a responsibility listed for the CO to "Select a Charter Organization Representative (COR) to serve as a voting member of the council". I would presume that this change being highlighted is going to impact the 2026 chartering agreement, to remove that. Ultimately, it was a bylaw/rule/regulation of the National Organization, so only the National Board needs to vote to amend the bylaw/rules/regulations. It might affect some councils chartering for 2026; however, my understanding is that most if not all councils left the national meeting with a 2 year charter going forward. Maybe that kicks in with next years charter, but I was told that this years charter extends into 2026 now (so supposedly all if not most councils have a charter that covers 2025 & 2026 and recharters will be 2 year charters now). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted Wednesday at 11:31 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:31 PM 8 hours ago, Tron said: I doubt this is going to affect any council. The reality of the situation is that absolutely no CORs are showing up to council meetings or even district meetings. I know this to be fact for my council and the councils surrounding my council. I have nagged the living ^&*( out of my CORs to go to district and council meetings and they all say the exact same thing "I don't have time for that.". Since that is a primary responsibility of the job, perhaps they are not the right person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago On 11/26/2025 at 8:50 AM, Tron said: The reality of the situation is that absolutely no CORs are showing up to council meetings or even district meetings Well, not no CORs for us. We had 3 out of about 60 show up at our district meeting. So, 5%. We welcomed them and they were a great addition. Not an impactful number overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago On 11/26/2025 at 5:31 PM, scoutldr said: Since that is a primary responsibility of the job, perhaps they are not the right person. Great observation, how do you propose to resolve the situation? 1 hour ago, mrjohns2 said: Well, not no CORs for us. We had 3 out of about 60 show up at our district meeting. So, 5%. We welcomed them and they were a great addition. Not an impactful number overall. Can you share what the reason was for the 3 to show up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 43 minutes ago, Tron said: Can you share what the reason was for the 3 to show up? We sent out an invite to all 60. The 3 showed up because they were interested. It really was as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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